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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by SheikBen on Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:34 am

TerryRC wrote:My mistake, I meant comm satellites rater than airlocks.

See, I'll admit my errors.

Regardless - no airlocks or moon pools on Verne's 20,000 Leagues. Regardless, Clarke did not invent the comm satellite.

Yesterday morning was rough - not from drinking but from lack of sleep. Stayed up late Friday as it was my wife's and my 8th anniversary.


Happy anniversary! I think the wife and I are getting old in that whatever we do for our anniversary (our 9th) it will probably involve being in bed by 11 and asleep by midnight, and only then if we can knock out the kids somehow......

My church's youth group has decided that it would be a great idea to go to Chicago and stay up all night going about the town bowling and rock climbing (my helpful wife volunteered me to drive). I do not recall what 3 am is like but I assume it's miserable.

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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by TerryRC on Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:57 am

Thanks, Sheik.

We lived together for a number of years before we tied the knot. Once my wife got pregnant, I felt we should have something a little more permanent.

I waited until after Emer (my daughter) was born before I proposed. I didn't want my wife to think I was proposing out of pity or guilt.

Eleven o' the clock? We are usually in bed by 9:30pm. Of course I get up around 5:00am to feed the chickens and whatnot before I head to work.
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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by Aaron on Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:17 am

SheikBen wrote:
TerryRC wrote:My mistake, I meant comm satellites rater than airlocks.

See, I'll admit my errors.

Regardless - no airlocks or moon pools on Verne's 20,000 Leagues. Regardless, Clarke did not invent the comm satellite.

Yesterday morning was rough - not from drinking but from lack of sleep. Stayed up late Friday as it was my wife's and my 8th anniversary.


Happy anniversary! I think the wife and I are getting old in that whatever we do for our anniversary (our 9th) it will probably involve being in bed by 11 and asleep by midnight, and only then if we can knock out the kids somehow......

My church's youth group has decided that it would be a great idea to go to Chicago and stay up all night going about the town bowling and rock climbing (my helpful wife volunteered me to drive). I do not recall what 3 am is like but I assume it's miserable.


There is only one reason to be up at 3:00 AM it the only involvement of kids is the conception part. Very Happy
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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by SamCogar on Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:58 am

TerryRC wrote:Yes Terry, but when you were reading Verne's "20,000 Leagues" and if in said he did not describe any form of "airlock" or "waterlock", ..... did you ever wonder how Captain Nemo would have gotten out ....... and then back in ...... to his submarine ...... to search around on the sea floor for oysters, lobsters or gold coins or whatever, ..... that is iffen he wanted to get out and then back into his sub?

They used diving suits and bells running on surface air.


I didn't ask you what they used, ........ now did I?

Try again big boy, ........ this time concentrate on the question I asked.

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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by TerryRC on Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:51 am

Try again big boy, ........ this time concentrate on the question I asked.

I didn't have to wonder about it, Sam. It was detailed in the book.

Reading - you should try it sometime.
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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by SamCogar on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:13 am

TerryRC wrote:
SamCogar wrote: Try again big boy, ........ this time concentrate on the question I asked. (to wit:)

Terry, ..... did you ever wonder how Captain Nemo would have gotten out ....... and then back in ...... to his submarine ...... to search around on the sea floor for oysters, lobsters or gold coins or whatever, ..... that is iffen he wanted to get out and then back into his sub?


I didn't have to wonder about it, Sam. It was detailed in the book.

Reading - you should try it sometime.


"DUH", I ask you a question .......... and you reply by making that statement. geek

TerryRC, due to what I perceive as either your evasiveness and/or inability to respond logically and/or truthfully in these Forum discussions I therefore have to assume that you are inhibited from doing so out of fear of being “outed” as a phony …….. and/or you are incapable of comprehending and interpreting the “obvious” or ”implied” that is stated in postings by other Forum responders.

TerryRC, my above question was predicated on the “idea of airlocks” relative to the egress and ingress of a submarine (aka: “gotten out ....... and then back in”) and therefore the “obvious” or ”implied” is when it was totally submerged under water.

TerryRC, the word “airlock” defines a “barrier” between two (2) different atmospheres: air and water, ……. air and a vacuum, …… air and a specific gas.

TerryRC, me thinks you are extremely deficient in the ability to engage in abstract thought/thinking and therefore it is damn near impossible to engage in a meaningful and productive conversation with you. Now the only exception might be if one was to discuss with you the ACTUAL CONTENT of a book, news article, paper, report, study, etc., but nothing more than the exact, literal wording of said.

Absolutely no "what ifs" or variances from the actual text.

abstract thought - reasoning: thinking that is coherent and logical

Abstraction is the process or result of generalization by reducing the information content of a concept or an observable phenomenon, typically in order to retain only information which is relevant for a particular purpose.

In philosophical terminology, abstraction is the thought process wherein ideas are distanced from objects.

Abstraction uses a strategy of simplification, wherein formerly concrete details are left ambiguous, vague, or undefined; thus effective communication about things in the abstract requires an intuitive or common experience between the communicator and the communication recipient.

Instantiation
Things that do not exist at any particular place and time are often considered abstract.

Physicality
Abstract things are sometimes defined as those things that do not exist in reality or exist only as sensory experience, like the color red.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction


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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by TerryRC on Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:10 am

Sam. I did answer the question.

You asked, "Terry, ..... did you ever wonder how Captain Nemo would have gotten out ....... and then back in ...... to his submarine...".

I said I didn't have to wonder - it was detailed in the book. The Nautilus surfaced and the divers dove on surface air. Nobody had even conceived of airlocks or compressed air when 20,000 Leagues was written.

See, my reading comprehension is just fine.

As far a lecturing me on airlocks and space technology, your track record shows that you had better save your breath to cool your porridge, seeing as how you didn't even know that Clarke didn't invent the comm satellite.

You will go off on super tangents to avoid admitting to error.
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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by SamCogar on Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:29 am

Terry, why don't you cite another book, ....... paper, ....... article, ........ or report, ....... that both of us have read , .......... then we can discuss the exact verbiage that the author used.

That would be productive and entertaining, right?

You can start by posting a quote from the selected source, ...... then I will post a quote, ............ then you post another quote and I will post another quote.

Why we will have so much fun ........... and you willl surely enjoy it. geek geek geek geek

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Re: Arthur C. Clarke

Post by TerryRC on Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:07 am

Sam, there were no airlocks in any of Jules Verne's books and Clarke didn't invent the comm satellite.

Man up and admit you don't know as much as you thought you did.
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