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Please Steph, it is not my intent to "prove you wrong", but to help you see the light.

And insofar as your self image what can I say?

You are the one who created this forum, for which I thank you and assure you that it will take many missteps on your part to shake my heartfelt appreciation.

And you certainly are not prone to missteps.

(being wrong on issues is obviously not a misstep by my definition)...

shermangeneral wrote:Please Steph, it is not my intent to "prove you wrong", but to help you see the light.

And insofar as your self image what can I say?

You are the one who created this forum, for which I thank you and assure you that it will take many missteps on your part to shake my heartfelt appreciation.

And you certainly are not prone to missteps.

(being wrong on issues is obviously not a misstep by my definition)...

Oh, Sherm, believe me, creating this forum was a very selfish act on my part.

I have been in WV just over a year. You guys are among my best WV friends. No way I was going to let some newspaper dweeb take you guys away from me because some spineless jellyfish are too stupid to breathe.

My only regret is other than the people already registered for this forum and SheikBen (who I'm certain will join soon), we have no way of inviting the others along. It is my sincere hope that with very few exceptions they find us very soon.

To be honest with you, there is only one I would out right ban. I wouldn't ban anyone else unless a clear majority of the other members asked me to. One Citizen, however, I honestly believe played a major role in the closing of the Gazz forum so I don't want him here.

So I thank you for coming along for the ride!

Happy New Year, Sherm.

shermangeneral wrote:Come on OC you dont believe she fell and bumped her head any more than I do.

OH MY, ....... but ShermanGeneral, ....... you believed Oswald was the lone shooter in the School Book Depository building, .......... right?

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OH MY, ....... but ShermanGeneral, ....... you believed Oswald was the lone shooter in the School Book Depository building, .......... right?

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Well Sam I have been thinking since this new forum is just getting off the ground, plus it is New Years and a time for resolutions, it might be a good time for me to change the way I deal with your consistent false statements about what I say or believe.

So instead of just ignoring them as I have tended to do in the past, I will from now on point them out or call you on them.

So please point us to a quote or a source for the statement above.

"One Citizen, however, I honestly believe played a major role in the closing of the Gazz forum so I don't want him here."

Well since he was a fellow leftie he did not agitate me as much as you guys on the right.

But I could tell yall did not like him.

But I agree he was too forceful in his opinions sometimes.

Just like some on the right.

But I understand we all look through our own rose colored glasses so I am not surprised that he is banned.

shermangeneral wrote:"One Citizen, however, I honestly believe played a major role in the closing of the Gazz forum so I don't want him here."

Well since he was a fellow leftie he did not agitate me as much as you guys on the right.

But I could tell yall did not like him.

But I agree he was too forceful in his opinions sometimes.

Just like some on the right.

But I understand we all look through our own rose colored glasses so I am not surprised that he is banned.

Sherm,

We are who and what we are. You are a Democrat and that's ok. I'm a Republican and that's ok too. I'm not banning One Citizen because he is a liberal or a "leftist".

You are always a gentleman. You and I have had many disagreements in the past and I fully anticipate we will have many disagreements in the future. However somehow you and I manage to maintain a level a civility and have even managed to somehow form a friendship.

I don't necessarily "like" everyone we chat with. Aaron and I have had very heated debates, as you well know. Sam and I have batted each other about a time or two. Cato, Keli, and RC and I have all had some pretty heated exchanges. All of these men have had my dander up and with Aaron in particular, I have lost my cool a time or two and said and posted things I wish I hadn't.

One Citizen was different. He was all attack and always on the offensive. He would never, or perhaps could never, simply agree to disagree. He wasn't satisfied at insisting others were wrong. Instead he called us Iraqi baby killers and made other slanderous and outrageous accusations and insuations about child molesters and rapists and so forth. Even that wasn't enough for him.

When things got too hot for him he threatened to go running to Gazz officials and I happen to believe he did. Could I be wrong about that? I suppose. It also could be that someone from the Gazz had just started paying attention to the forum and witnessed all that was going on and that led to its closure. Either way, I hold him responsible.

I'm thrilled you and everyone else from Aaron to Ziggy that has joined us is here. I managed to find almost all of you because you were the people I was closest to anyway and I'm very thankful for that. Still I'm angry and a little sad that I have no way of contacting Keith, hyperstation, JDR, Randall, and all the others.

I just want to make sure you understand why I don't want him around. I could be wrong, but I blame him.

please see suggestion re this under local news.

1-C had an incessant penchant for calling almost all who disagreed with him a "liar"- and with his "proofs" that so and so was a liar- when all so-and-so had done was say what he/she believed. As Aaron says, our opinions are not necessarily subject to "proofs".

Well insofar as One Citizen engaged in that anti-social behavior I do not uphold him.

I would merely point out that others (on the other side of the political spectrum) have also done so.

And they are not banned.

I would personally like to see that standard adopted for both sides, beginning now.

Are you familiar with Plato's Republic and the discussion of "Justice" therein?

shermangeneral wrote:Well insofar as One Citizen engaged in that anti-social behavior I do not uphold him.

I would merely point out that others (on the other side of the political spectrum) have also done so.

And they are not banned.

I would personally like to see that standard adopted for both sides, beginning now.

Are you familiar with Plato's Republic and the discussion of "Justice" therein?

Oh really? Who went to One C's lengths? I'd like a name or names and a couple of examples.

You want him here? I suppose if he shows up we could put it to a vote. I didn't create this forum to be a dictator.

Well Steph I have big broad shoulders and do not want anybody banned.

But I suspect there are those who will admit to what they have said.

We have no way to change the past, but we do have ways to change the future.

I have to leave shortly to head into Joisey in the morning so I leave you to your own devices on this subject.

But here is a good discourse on Justice, if that is your goal for the treatment of your posters.

Or you could do like the preacher politician says about the definition of porn and say you cant describe it in words but you know it when you see it.

http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/2g.htm

And I miss James, too. I wish he were here.

Look Sherm, I am not without guilt. While I lament the loss of the Gazz Forum for loss of so many people, there are a few statements I posted I'm a bit relieved I will never have to see again.

As far as me contacting the Gazz, I honestly believe I am the WRONG person to do so because of previous correspondence between Mr. Davison and myself.

From: crzslady@ntelos.net [mailto:crzslady@ntelos.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:36 PM
> To: jdavison@wvgazette.com
> Subject: gazz forum
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> Where's the forum? We'd like it back, please.

His response:

> I apologize, but the forum is a feature we no longer offer. It was a
> service that needed to be monitored by a Gazette employee, and we have
> decided to focus our resources on developing new and better features.
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> Sorry for the bad news and thanks for your input.
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> Regards,
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> James Davison
> Web editor
> wvgazette.com
> The Charleston Gazette
> jdavison@wvgazette.com

>

My parting shot:

Many of the regulars will cancel their subscriptions. I know I'm calling to do so right now.

Aaron, I believe, wrote him asking to forward contact info or at least post a link to this forum. With the holidays surrounding all of this I suppose it is possible he's just been away and may do so upon his return.

Aaron, btw......is having some sort of problem viewing this site on his home pc. I'm sure he'll be back once he returns to work.

Have a safe journey, Sherm.