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Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:48 pm
ziggy wrote:You are not my big brother.
I'm 42. I'm certainly not old enough to be your big brother.
You're in your late 60's/early 70's, I'm guessing. Is there anyone here old enough to be your big brother Frank?
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
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Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by ziggy on Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:09 pm
My age is 62 years. SamCogar is about 5, maybe 6, years more than that, I think.
"If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war": Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by ziggy on Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:25 pm
Aaron wrote:The only poll I can find is 2 years old. 51% of those polled believe Bush lied. 45% believe he had faulty intelligence. Funny though, I couldn't find a poll that ask is Congress, who had the EXACT same intelligence GWB had, responsible for lying or faulty intelligence.
Did Congress have access to all the doubts the intelligence agencies expressed about the credibility of their own reports and sources re: Iraq?
I wonder why that is? What do you think Frank.
I think it's because, at that point, Congress cared no more about the truth than GWB did. The 2003 rush to war was a madness- and Congress was not immune from piling on to that madness for some misguided attempt at being politically correct.
"If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war": Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by ziggy on Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:27 pm
It doesn't matter though. The onus is still on the accusers to prove he lied.
The "accuser" re: Iraq in 2002-03 was GWB. I think that the onus is on him to prove that he did not lie.
"If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war": Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:30 pm
Then you would be wrong. Innocent until proven guility. That's how we roll Frank.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
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Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by ziggy on Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:42 pm
Aaron wrote:Then you would be wrong. Innocent until proven guility. That's how we roll Frank.
So then Saddam was innocent of the charges Bush made against him and Iraq re: why the U.S. invaded Iraq? Those were never proven, you know.
No proof of WMDs in 2002 or 2003, no proof of even indirect complicity with 9/11 terrorism, no proof of anything other than that he was one bad assed s.o.b. of a dictator- not unlike a whole bunch of similar such dictators worldwide. But by how you say we "roll", Saddam was innocent.
"If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war": Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:17 pm
Take it up with Congress and the UN Frank. They're the one's that found Sadaam guilty.
Maybe you can use that proof you got that Bush lied and get him impeached while your at it.
Maybe you can use that proof you got that Bush lied and get him impeached while your at it.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by ziggy on Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:56 am
Take it up with Congress and the UN Frank. They're the one's that found Sadaam guilty.
But you are the one that declares him innocent:
Aaron wrote:Then you would be wrong. Innocent until proven guility. That's how we roll Frank.
"If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war": Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:16 am
Yep, that's how we roll. Innocent until proven guilty.
GWB made his case to the UN and they found him 'guilty'. He then made his case to the Congress of the United States of America and they found him guilty.
Punishment was naming GWB the judge and allowing him to pass sentence, which he did.
Just because you didn't like the proceedings doesn't change the facts Frank.
And in all your boohooing about GWB lying, which you've offered no proof of whatsoever btw, you've failed to address the topic of the thread.
Any thoughts on Pakistan fundamentalist decapitating Afghans for cooperating with Americans?
GWB made his case to the UN and they found him 'guilty'. He then made his case to the Congress of the United States of America and they found him guilty.
Punishment was naming GWB the judge and allowing him to pass sentence, which he did.
Just because you didn't like the proceedings doesn't change the facts Frank.
And in all your boohooing about GWB lying, which you've offered no proof of whatsoever btw, you've failed to address the topic of the thread.
Any thoughts on Pakistan fundamentalist decapitating Afghans for cooperating with Americans?
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Stephanie on Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:05 am
The UN tried Saddam Hussein? I missed that.
Did he have an attorney? I don't recall any of that.
Did he have an attorney? I don't recall any of that.
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-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:00 am
You don't remember Colin Powell at the UN? There was something like 11 or 12 resolutoins including the final one that the UN Security Council passed unanimously after GWB spoke to the UN in September, 2002.
Perhaps the reason you were so easily duped into supporting the Iraq invasion to begin with was because you weren't paying attention to what was going on.
Perhaps the reason you were so easily duped into supporting the Iraq invasion to begin with was because you weren't paying attention to what was going on.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by ziggy on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:23 am
GWB made his case to the UN and they found him 'guilty'.
Guilty of what? Based on what evidence?
He then made his case to the Congress of the United States of America and they found him guilty.
Again, guilty of what? And based on what evidence?
And in all your boohooing about GWB lying, which you've offered no proof of whatsoever btw,
But we can note that at least twice here you have declined to opine that Bush believed what he was saying about Iraq and WMDs in his hype leading up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. And neither you nor Bush have offered proof that he didn't lie. So you are trying to have it both ways- again.
"If we let people see that kind of thing, there would never again be any war": Pentagon official explaining why the U.S. military censored graphic footage from the Gulf War
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:46 am
Frank my man, as I told you GWB has never confided in me, I'm not a Medium, and I don't mess with Ouija boards so I have no way of knowing what he believed and didn't believe leading up to the invasion of Iraq. I gave you his number. Call him up.
As I've told you, you're the accuser so the onus is on you to prove he lied. Prove it if you can.
And if you want to know what SH is guilty of, try Google. Google Iraq war UN resolution and I'm quite confident you'll find all you need to know and then some.
As I've told you, you're the accuser so the onus is on you to prove he lied. Prove it if you can.
And if you want to know what SH is guilty of, try Google. Google Iraq war UN resolution and I'm quite confident you'll find all you need to know and then some.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Stephanie on Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:58 pm
Aaron wrote:You don't remember Colin Powell at the UN? There was something like 11 or 12 resolutoins including the final one that the UN Security Council passed unanimously after GWB spoke to the UN in September, 2002.
Perhaps the reason you were so easily duped into supporting the Iraq invasion to begin with was because you weren't paying attention to what was going on.
That wasn't a trial, Aaron.
You seem a little confused.
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
by Aaron on Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:17 pm
Confused about what? How our President laid out his plans and received the support of both the world community and the United States community, both political and private, and did only what he was authorized to do?
Nope, I'm pretty sure that's how it happened. No confusion here.
Nope, I'm pretty sure that's how it happened. No confusion here.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
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