You better cheer …. or you might be next.

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Post by Stephanie on Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:46 pm

Aaron wrote:Take it up with Congress and the UN Frank. They're the one's that found Sadaam guilty.

Maybe you can use that proof you got that Bush lied and get him impeached while your at it.


Confused about what? How our President laid out his plans and received the support of both the world community and the United States community, both political and private, and did only what he was authorized to do?

Nope, I'm pretty sure that's how it happened. No confusion here.


No trial, Aaron......you're confused......or your twisting the facts to suit your purpose.
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Post by Aaron on Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:34 pm

GWB took his case to the UN Security Council and they unanimously passed UN Resolution 1441.

He took his case to the US Congress and they passed by over 70%, public law 107-243 authorizing the Iraq War.

It doesn't matter what you call it, GWB followed procedures, which YOU agreed with. No confusion and no purpose here. Just plain simple facts.
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Post by Stephanie on Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:59 pm

He was deceptive. He should be ashamed of himself. Unfortunately, it would appear, like other despots before him, GWB has no shame.
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Post by Aaron on Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:04 pm

How was he deceptive?
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Post by Stephanie on Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:19 pm

He insisted Saddam Hussein had WMD and he was hiding them from UN Weapons Inspectors. That wasn't truthful.

He insisted Saddam Hussein posed an imminent threat to America and Americans. That wasn't truthful.
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Post by Aaron on Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:54 am

Bearing in mind that you've just expressed an opinion. If there were proof of what you say, GWB would have been impeached a long time ago.

The facts are, the consensus of the worlds intelligence agencies was that Sadaam Hussein had WMD's and hid them from weapons inspectors. That is a belief that Sadaam perpetuated to keep Iran, among others, at bay.

And yes, he was a threat to America. He invaded Kuwait because an official from Kuwait upset him. He hated GB Sr and America and blamed us for the reduced role Iraq played in the Middle East. Sam is right in that sooner or later, we would have had to deal with Sadaam Hussein. I don't disagree with that. I disagreed with the why and questioned the when part of it. I felt like, and still do, the pre-emptive strike was not reason enough for American action at that time.

I also felt Iraq was fairly well contained in 2003. Sooner or later though, Sadaam would have done something that would have justified American intervention though. It was a matter of time.
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Post by SheikBen on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:52 am

Stephanie wrote:He insisted Saddam Hussein had WMD and he was hiding them from UN Weapons Inspectors. That wasn't truthful.

He insisted Saddam Hussein posed an imminent threat to America and Americans. That wasn't truthful.


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Post by ziggy on Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:57 am

Being wrong is not the same as being deceptive


Mike, do you think that Bush believed all that he was saying about Iraq and Saddam Hussein in the weeks and months leading up to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq?
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Post by Stephanie on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:26 am

Michael,

So you really believe Bush & Co. were being totally up front with the UN, Congress, and/or the American people?
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Post by SamCogar on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:27 am

Didn't Colin Powell address the UN on that subject?

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