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You better cheer …. or you might be next.
At least 5,000 people cheer at beheading and shooting of American sympathizers.
Waliur Rehman, a local Taliban commander, told the crowd that the two men confessed to aiding in a suspected U.S. missile strike on a house in the border town of Damadola that killed 14 people last month. The men disclosed the names of others involved, and they would be killed as well, he said.
"Whoever, for the sake of money, for the sake of America, harms the interest of the Islamic world will meet the same fate," he said.
Gunmen with daggers then pounced on one of the men — identified as Jan Wali, 36 — decapitated him and waved his bloody head to the cheering crowd.
The militants then argued over how to kill the other man because he may have been a teenager, before one lost patience and shot him with an assault rifle.
The crowd erupted in cheers of "God is great!" and gunmen fired in the air in jubilation. The celebratory gunfire killed two bystanders and wounded six, local official Fazal Rabbi said.
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Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
And just what do you suppose would happen if American military leaders had taken similar action against an American who aided an American who assisted with an attack on Americans?
Public executions were regularly held in this country for a very long time. The crowds were frequently huge and many times the atmosphere was celebratory.
Public executions were regularly held in this country for a very long time. The crowds were frequently huge and many times the atmosphere was celebratory.
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
I thought you favored American intervention in Afghanistan Stephanie. Was I wrong?
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
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Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
What has that got to do with this discussion?
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
Everything. If we are not in Afghanistan, this doesn't happen.
If we remain in Afghanistan and this continues to happen, how do we not respond against the Pakistani miliants.
You've expressed concern over a prolonged stay in Iraq and a possible attack against Iran while at the same time, supporting more troops in Afghanistan.
Now look at both countries. Iraq is becoming more stable while Afghanistan is not. May marked the first month where Afghanistan's combat death toll outnumbered Iraq's.
What it has to with the conversation is that your points of view seem to conflict.
If we remain in Afghanistan and this continues to happen, how do we not respond against the Pakistani miliants.
You've expressed concern over a prolonged stay in Iraq and a possible attack against Iran while at the same time, supporting more troops in Afghanistan.
Now look at both countries. Iraq is becoming more stable while Afghanistan is not. May marked the first month where Afghanistan's combat death toll outnumbered Iraq's.
What it has to with the conversation is that your points of view seem to conflict.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
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Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
Stephanie wrote:And just what do you suppose would happen if American military leaders had taken similar action against an American who aided an American who assisted with an attack on Americans?.
Well, 1st of all, ..... it would have pissed off all the Defense Lawyers ..... and all the "bleeding heart liberals".
The Lawyers would be pissed because said action would negate any possibility of any one of them making a "ton of money" as their Defense Counsel.
And all the "bleeding heart liberals" would be pissed because they wanted him "turned back loose on the streets" ...... to do it again, ..... and besides, next time it might be "one of their own".
And 2ndly, ..... I would never again be worrying about ....... "them doing it again".
ps, and in ref to "just what do you suppose would happen if", ...... Stephanie, I justa bout busted a gut laughing ….. when I heard at least two (2) idiotic partisan anti-gun females on TV, ….. asking a couple happy pro-2nd Amendment supporters …… “But now just how are you going to be able to control the criminals in Washington, DC and other big cities if the citizens are permitted to own guns?”
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Aaron,
You are overlooking some very important facts when you bring up Iraq and Afghanistan. Such as, our presence in Iraq means less US forces available for deployment in Afghanistan. Our neglect of Afghanistan has lead to latest rise of the Taliban and has allowed for violence to spread across the border into Pakistan.
You say Iraq has become more stable since when? Certainly Iraq is not as stable as before the US attacked and toppled the government. Certainly Iraq has much more violence and has seen an explosion of terrorism and terrorist attacks since our government invaded. Iraq's borders have become porous with refugees fleeing and Islamic extremists pouring in.
We have been squandering our opportunity in Afghanistan by sending US forces into Iraq that were needed to stabilize Afghanistan. I don't understand why anyone expresses surprise.
I supported invading Afghanistan because that is where the terrorists were organizing and training. We are suffering higher losses in Afghanistan because the brain drain in Washington needlessly sent troops into Iraq bringing chaos and terrorism to a nation that, for all its problems, wasn't manufacturing suicide bombers and Islamic extremists.
Our invasion and occupation of Iraq has lead to major problems in not just Iraq, but in Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan as well.
You are overlooking some very important facts when you bring up Iraq and Afghanistan. Such as, our presence in Iraq means less US forces available for deployment in Afghanistan. Our neglect of Afghanistan has lead to latest rise of the Taliban and has allowed for violence to spread across the border into Pakistan.
You say Iraq has become more stable since when? Certainly Iraq is not as stable as before the US attacked and toppled the government. Certainly Iraq has much more violence and has seen an explosion of terrorism and terrorist attacks since our government invaded. Iraq's borders have become porous with refugees fleeing and Islamic extremists pouring in.
We have been squandering our opportunity in Afghanistan by sending US forces into Iraq that were needed to stabilize Afghanistan. I don't understand why anyone expresses surprise.
I supported invading Afghanistan because that is where the terrorists were organizing and training. We are suffering higher losses in Afghanistan because the brain drain in Washington needlessly sent troops into Iraq bringing chaos and terrorism to a nation that, for all its problems, wasn't manufacturing suicide bombers and Islamic extremists.
Our invasion and occupation of Iraq has lead to major problems in not just Iraq, but in Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan as well.
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
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Sam,
The point I was trying to make to you was it seems to me you are criticizing the Taliban for doing to their enemies what you would celebrate Americans doing to theirs.
Am I wrong?
The point I was trying to make to you was it seems to me you are criticizing the Taliban for doing to their enemies what you would celebrate Americans doing to theirs.
Am I wrong?
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Last edited by Stephanie on Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:16 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : typo)
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
Stephanie,
I'm not sure what you're agruing here. What we should have done 5 years ago or what we should do now.
I've got a couple of games to go to. If you can clarify your post, I'll respond tonight.
I'm not sure what you're agruing here. What we should have done 5 years ago or what we should do now.
I've got a couple of games to go to. If you can clarify your post, I'll respond tonight.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
I deleted "Afghanistan because"......it was in there twice.
Our government screwed up when it attacked Iraq. We are paying the price in Afghanistan as well as in Iraq. The people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan are also paying heavy prices.
I think other than the typo it is pretty clear.
Our government screwed up when it attacked Iraq. We are paying the price in Afghanistan as well as in Iraq. The people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan are also paying heavy prices.
I think other than the typo it is pretty clear.
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
I wasn't talking about a word twice. I wasn't sure if you were referring to what we SHOULD have done 5 years ago or what we should have done now.
I agree, we shouldn't have went into Iraq 5 years ago. That doesn't change the small simple fact that we are there now.
So what is the objective in Afghanistan? The capture of OBL or are we nation building there as well?
If we want to rid that country of the Taliban, then we're going to have to commit to staying there for about a hundred years. Are you ready to make that commitment?
I agree, we shouldn't have went into Iraq 5 years ago. That doesn't change the small simple fact that we are there now.
So what is the objective in Afghanistan? The capture of OBL or are we nation building there as well?
If we want to rid that country of the Taliban, then we're going to have to commit to staying there for about a hundred years. Are you ready to make that commitment?
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
5000 cheer at the beheading of American sympathizers? Why didn't we bomb the occasion?
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
Aaron,
You know the objectives were, and remain different. In Iraq, the obvious objective was to topple the government. Mission accomplished, right? Too bad we traded Saddam Hussein for suicide bombers and radical Islamic extremists.
In Afghanistan, the goal was to destroy terrorist training camps, catch and/or kill OBL and other terrorist leaders. Bin Laden has remained elusive, and may be dead, but we were well on our way to ridding Afghanistan of terrorism.
We only need to remain in Afghanistan for one hundred years if we continue the recent course.
You know the objectives were, and remain different. In Iraq, the obvious objective was to topple the government. Mission accomplished, right? Too bad we traded Saddam Hussein for suicide bombers and radical Islamic extremists.
In Afghanistan, the goal was to destroy terrorist training camps, catch and/or kill OBL and other terrorist leaders. Bin Laden has remained elusive, and may be dead, but we were well on our way to ridding Afghanistan of terrorism.
We only need to remain in Afghanistan for one hundred years if we continue the recent course.
Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense.
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
-Ron Paul
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
-Ron Paul
The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.
-Ron Paul
Re: You better cheer …. or you might be next.
Stephanie wrote:Sam,
The point I was trying to make to you was it seems to me you are criticizing the Taliban for doing to their enemies what you would celebrate Americans doing to theirs.
Am I wrong?
AAAAAAAAAWWWWW Steph, ...... now you know, .... and I know, ....... what the point was that you were trying to make ......... and that wasn't it.
Now you asked, to wit:
Stephanie wrote:
And just what do you suppose would happen if American military leaders had taken similar action against an American who aided an American who assisted with an attack on Americans?.
And I told you exactly what would happen.
But you don't want to face reality by accepting my answer as the "gawd awful factual truth".
Gawd awful ...... because that is the same way you lefty liberal bleeding hearts want to treat child murdering predators and others who perpetuate senseless henious crimes against innocent people.
Stephanie, it was double deviousness on your part to reply to my Post by equating and/or comparing the Taliban to our American Military leaders.
The Taliban is not the Military leaders of Pakistan ....... any more than are the dozens of "gangs" the Law Enforcement Agencies of Los Angeles.
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Stephanie wrote:Aaron,
You know the objectives were, and remain different. In Iraq, the obvious objective was to topple the government. Mission accomplished, right? Too bad we traded Saddam Hussein for suicide bombers and radical Islamic extremists.
In Afghanistan, the goal was to destroy terrorist training camps, catch and/or kill OBL and other terrorist leaders. Bin Laden has remained elusive, and may be dead, but we were well on our way to ridding Afghanistan of terrorism.
We only need to remain in Afghanistan for one hundred years if we continue the recent course.
So if that was/is our goals, then why did we remove the Taliban from power?
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
JFK-1960
JFK-1960
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