Why do Public Employee thieves always get probation

And never get any jail time for doing those dastardly deeds?

Marmet clerk gets probation in embezzlement

The former clerk for Marmet's sanitary board was sentenced in Kanawha Circuit Court Thursday to three years' probation for embezzling (stealing) more than $11,000.

Donna Corder pleaded guilty to the charge on April 4, admitting that she wrote checks to herself from the sanitary board's funds.

Judge Jennifer Bailey Walker made four to 16 months of participation in the county's Day Report program a requirement of Corder's probation. She also imposed a two- to 10-year prison sentence, but suspended it in favor of probation.

In addition, Corder must make restitution of $11,900.69 to City National Bank, said Kanawha County Assistant Prosecutor Rob Schulenberg.

Corder was arrested in October after Marmet Town Recorder Jill Runnion spotted suspicious activity when she was computerizing town records.

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200806121164

It makes one think that government agencies have a “Non-repayable ‘If’ Loan Program” that is available to all their employees.

Like, ya can borrow the money and you might only have to pay it back …. ‘If’ ya get found out that you borrowed it.

And ps, it wouldn't surprise me any if the Judge only ordered her to pay $5/month to make restitution of that $11,900.69 owed to City National Bank, which would only be 2,380 monthly payments, ...... which will only take her 198 years to pay it off.

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And people that embezzle in the private sector never get away with probation?

You are one class act, Sammy.

TerryRC wrote:And people that embezzle in the private sector never get away with probation?

You are one class act, Sammy.

Lots n' lots of people in the private sector get jail time for embezzlement.

So TRC, ..... tell me, ..... what is the diifference between ..... embezzling money, ...... and ..... identity theft?

Or, .... embezzling money, ...... and ..... stealing money out of a cash register?

Embezzlement
A little here, a little there - that's how "innocently" embezzlement can start. But make no mistake - being accused of this crime is very serious.

Even if you have been accused of a modest amount of embezzlement, this white collar crime could still lead to serious, life-altering consequences. Some of the more formidable are noted below.

Social stigma - Embezzlement equals social stigma. The media loves to research and write stories about embezzlement and the sentencing those who embezzle receive. Therefore, your name (as well as your friends, colleagues, and family) will be splashed in the headlines.

Jail time - If you are convicted of embezzlement, you may be sentenced to prison. And believe us when we say that this is not a place you want to go. Even if you are sent to a white collar prison, it's not going to be a "country club" atmosphere, as many erroneously believe. A jail is a jail; your freedoms will be revoked and you'll be unable to see people you care about for long periods of time.
http://www.resource4criminallaw.com/whitecollarcrime.html

AUSTIN, Texas — Friday, May 25, 2007 - A former stripper was sentenced to nearly three-and-a-half years in federal prison Friday for attempting to embezzle more than $1 million from a bank to start her own NASCAR racing team.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275522,00.html

Friday, May 16, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
GAYLORD — Linda Wiseley, former executive director of a local builders and contractors association, will serve a minimum four-and-a-half months of a nine-month sentence for the embezzlement of more than $100,000 from the dissolved association.
http://www.gaylordheraldtimes.com/articles/2008/05/17/news/police_courts/doc482df3f77115d429793671.txt

Friday, April 1, 2005
Woman gets prison time for embezzling from Smithville bank
A Central Texas woman was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison Friday for embezzling
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2005/03/28/daily57.html

Now TRC, cite me a few examples of public employees doing jail time for embezzlement.



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Former County Clerk Released from Prison
7/18/2006


The former Jackson County, Mississippi Chancery Clerk, Lynn Presley has been released from prison after completing 84 months of his 10-year prison sentence for embezzling county funds in the late 1990s.

http://www.davickservices.com/Former_Co_Official_Released.htm


A former part-time city clerk was sentenced yesterday to four months in prison for embezzling $170,000 from the White Plains City Court over the last 10 years

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DE1038F932A35751C1A96E948260

And maybe if you look long and hard Frank you can find an instance where a public employee from WEST VIRGINIA actually did time.

Keep looking, I'm sure you can do it.

And maybe if you look long and hard Frank you can find an instance where a public employee from WEST VIRGINIA actually did time.

Keep looking, I'm sure you can do it.

It'll never be good enough, Ziggy.

Public employees sometimes go to jail for crimes and private sector employees sometimes get off with probation.

Aaron and Sam know that, they just have more fun picking on public employees.

If the public employees weren't there to bitch about, they would find someone else to lampoon.

TerryRC wrote:And maybe if you look long and hard Frank you can find an instance where a public employee from WEST VIRGINIA actually did time.

Keep looking, I'm sure you can do it.

It'll never be good enough, Ziggy.

Public employees (in WV) sometimes go to jail for (embezzlement) crimes and private sector employees sometimes get off with probation.

Aaron and Sam know that, they just have more fun picking on public employees.

Now TerryRC, we do not know that just because you say we know it.

TRC, do you want me to "play the same game" on you, ..... and start telling Forum members ...... "what you know"?

Wouldn't you "SQUEEEEEEEEL" ...... like a "stuck" pig iffen I were to do that?

And wouldn't you also badmouth, ..... berate, .... critique, ... criticize, ...... condemn, ..... admonish ..... and cry "FOUL" ..... because I only "did to you" ........ what you first "did to me"?

You sure as hell would, Terry, ...... you sure as hell would.

You would again be crying those "Mommy's boy's tears" .... while claiming you "didn't do it first".

And TRC, ya got the frigging nerve to claim .... "Sam won't debate with me."

GIMME A BREAK

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TerryRC wrote:Public employees sometimes go to jail for crimes and private sector employees sometimes get off with probation.

Aaron and Sam know that, they just have more fun picking on public employees.

If the public employees weren't there to bitch about, they would find someone else to lampoon.

Show where public employees in WV, who's total compensation package is twice that of a private sector worker, go to jail where private sector employees get parole.

It's easy for you to state that. Now it's time to prove it. Put up or shut up TC.

Didn't old Arch Moore do some time?

That didn't take long...

BTW, while I can't speak for other agencies, my compensation package is nowhere near what I could get in the private sector.

Just another one of those myths people like you perpetuate.

Remember your total compensation package includes your free health insurance and retirement package and the average state workers is twice that of the private sector. I've got the information at home. I'll dig it up and prove there's nothing myth about it.

And yes ole Arch did some time. So the ratio's down to 100 to 1 of those getting off vs going to jail.

TerryRC wrote:Didn't old Arch Moore do some time?

That didn't take long....

And so did Larry whats-his-face from Nicholas County and a few others over the years.

But none of them for embezzlement or ....... missing, unaccounted for, misuse, misappropation of funds.

TerryRC wrote:BTW, while I can't speak for other agencies, my compensation package is nowhere near what I could get in the private sector.

Just another one of those myths people like you perpetuate.

TRC, considering:

the cost of your health insurance,
the number of vacation days you get,
the number of holidays you get,
the number of sick days you get,
the number of personal days you get,
the retirement benefits you get,
the number of years employed to qualify for retirement,

just where in the private sector can you be significantly greater compensated?



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I'm not going to remember her name but........

I recall reading about a former delegate from Putnam County who went to prison for some such thing. I can't even google it because I don't recall enough of the details. I do remember she was a pubbie, though.

Lisa something maybe?

Stephanie, that was former State Senator Lisa Smith. She failed to pay withholding taxes on her employees to the IRS, as I recall.

She was one of those Newt Gingrich holier than thou types- who was a lot less holier than thou.

She beat then incumbent Putnam County Senator Oshel Craigo on a "conservative, family values" kind of campaign. But I'll betcha that ole' Oshel pays his employees' withholding taxes to the IRS on time.

Stephanie wrote:I'm not going to remember her name but........

I recall reading about a former delegate from Putnam County who went to prison for some such thing. I can't even google it because I don't recall enough of the details. I do remember she was a pubbie, though.

Lisa something maybe?

It took me a while to find it, ...... but "no", .... not same thing. Her's was a "private" matter.

HUNTINGTON -- A former state senator from Putnam County may be spending the next 25 years in federal prison and be fined $500,000 after pleading guilty Aug. 7 to one count of failing to pay employment taxes and one count of mail fraud.

Lisa D. Smith, 43, of Scott Depot, entered her plea before U.S. District Judge Robert C. "Chuck" Chambers in federal court in Huntington. Her husband, Mark K. Smith, 49, also pleaded guilty Aug. 7 to one count of failure to pay employment taxes. He faces up to five years in federal prison and a fine of $250,000.
http://www.statejournal.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=27337

But I did remember the name of another one, former state delegate and senator Randy Schoonover, who went to Jail for bribery. To wit:

http://www.hurherald.com/cgi-bin/db_scripts/articles?Action=user_view&db=hurheral_articles&id=20879



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Yes, that's the woman. She was a colleague of sorts of a friend of mine. At one time they both owned and operated home health type agencies. I think she may have spent some time, or is currently, in a mental health facility.