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Post by Aaron on Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:02 pm

ohio county wrote:And Justice Kennedy who wrote the majority opinion on the death penalty for convicted child rapists based on "evolving morality" was appointed by Ronald Reagan. Maybe Obama will mess up and appoint a strict constructionist.


Remember Jimmy that Kennedy was Reagain's third choice. He was nominated on the advice of Ed Meese after Robert Bork's failed confirmation hearing and Doug Ginsburg withdrew after it was found out he was a toker.

Doug Ginsburg currently sets on the DC court that recently overturned the gun ban that led to this weeks Supreme Court dedision.

Imagine the difference if Reagan's first or second choice were on the bench.
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Post by Stephanie on Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:48 pm

Aaron,

Sure I'm pro-life and I want nominees who understand the inhumanity of abortion. That has always been what I've desired. It simply isn't enough to get me to vote for the Republican nominee this time around. This time around we have a nominee who jokes about bombing Iran and talks about occupying Iraq for 100 years.

I have decided my husband was correct 4 years ago.....voting for the lesser of two evils is stupid, you're still voting for evil. I'm done holding my nose in the voting booth. Is McCain the "lesser evil"? I'm not even sure. All I am sure about is I will not be voting for McCain or Obama.

You can take that to the bank.
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Post by Aaron on Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:04 pm

First, I wasn't specifically speaking about you Steph but more the pro-life community in general.

I commend you on your willingness to take a stand. Good for you.

Bear in mind though that if Obama wins he and nominates a judge, it will be a liberal judge.

You can take that to the bank.
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Post by Stephanie on Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:14 pm

You know, even with Hillary out of the race, Belize still seems mighty tempting.....
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Post by Aaron on Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:43 pm

So when we turn into a socailist government, do we have to learn French???
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Post by Stephanie on Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:05 pm

Doubtful! Too many Americans still struggle with English.
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Post by Aaron on Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:29 pm

Wui.
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Post by SamCogar on Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:04 am

Aaron wrote:Bear in mind though that if Obama wins he and nominates a judge, it will be a liberal judge.

You can take that to the bank.


Well now, from reading all these posts it doesn't seem to matter who the President nominates to fill a vacancy on the SC, ........ BECAUSE:

1. Congress has to approve the nomination

2. The President and/or Congress seldom get what they think they are getting.



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Post by Aaron on Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:23 am

You are right Sam, for the most part.

Except with GWB.

He may have failed at a lot of things but his two appointments are not part of his failures. He got what he wanted.

And while the do nothing democrats fail at everything they attempt and have shown they are inept at managing a cold, Republicans have shown that even in the minority, they are pretty good at getting what they want.

But like I said, if BO is appointing, democrats aren't gaining anything.
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Post by ziggy on Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:19 pm

Except with GWB.
He may have failed at a lot of things but his two appointments are not part of his failures. He got what he wanted.


Not quite. Harriet Miers was his first choice. But when her confirmation looked shaky, he withdrew her nomination. Samuel Alito was his 2nd choice.
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Post by Aaron on Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:44 pm

Actually I read somewhere on one of the blog sites that Alito was his first choice but since O'Connor was retiring, he was getting pressure to fill that position with another woman. So it turns out his 'second choice' wasn't a bad one after all, huh!!!

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Post by ziggy on Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:13 pm

I agree that Alito was not a bad choice. But he wasn't Bush's first choice.
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Post by SheikBen on Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:05 am

What is the likelihood of a Democratic appointee later going against Democratic wishes, just as Souter and Stevens are Republican appointees that vote with the liberals on the court?

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Post by SheikBen on Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:07 am

BTW,

I wish our judiciary were independent, but the Democrats in the Senate's insistence on appointees being pro-choice proves that they, at least, want their policies in the judiciary. They claim they want an independent judiciary as long as it agrees with them. I'm not sure how to get a truly independent judiciary, but it is a myth that the Democrats want one.

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Post by Randall on Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:51 pm

Funny how Republican presidents have a "better" record of appointing judges from across the ideological spectrum. Can anyone remember the last time a Democrat appointed a justice who wasn't entirely beholden to the ACLU and the People for the American Way?
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