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Hi OC,

I do not have such faith in the American people (or myself, really). The current housing crisis comes from many borrows and banks being the opposite of "capable and smart."

Now I trust the American people more than I trust the American government, so in principle I agree that markets are better actors than government regulators. However, I do not trust the markets to do what is sound, I just trust the government even less. What I really believe to be necessary is a much better informed consumer who makes choices with the counsel of both personal wellbeing AND standards of right and wrong.

shermangeneral wrote:Well maybe the prospect of oil spills and having their view cluttered by oil rigs will cultivate some appreciation for what southern wvians have to put up with i.e. strip mines, mountaintop removals, etc.

Tell me sherm, who is viewing strip mines and where exactly are they an eye sore, except for overhead flights.

The biggest problems southern WV'ians have to put with is overweight coal trucks and the state could stop that if they wanted to.

Heck aaron I thot they solved the overweight coal tk. problem.

Plus I never even mentioned they were an eyesore you did.

Doesn't matter anyway. It's our coastline and our decision. We say "no". We never told you you had to defile your mountains.

BTW, my brother lives in the mountains in KY. His mountain, his view, his creek have been adversely affected. It's nasty business for your state.

Well SFC I never said you should.

I just said the prospect of it might generate some appreciation for the fact that there is an environmental cost to pay.

And right now we are paying more than our share.

What if the drilling platforms are more than 14 miles off the coast and you cannot see them? Is it then your continental shelf? Will you feel the same way when they want to install a wind farm just off the coast?

ohio county wrote:What if the drilling platforms are more than 14 miles off the coast and you cannot see them? Is it then your continental shelf? Will you feel the same way when they want to install a wind farm just off the coast?

I'd feel the same either way; that it's ours to decide. Do you believe the Federal interests outweigh the states'? Or is it just our state?

No, I do not. Does the state of California own the coast? Do the interests of the state of California trump the property owners'? I don't recall your answer to the question: what exactly is the damage to the coastline that results from offshore drilling?

"Do the interests of the state of California trump the property owners'?"

Who are you referring to here? The Federal Government?

I'd say the same for Florida. Florida depends on pristine coastlines for its economy. One spill and they're in for fiscal disaster. Why should they bear the brunt of a national policy of dependence on oil?

No state should be forced to do what it has determined to be detrimental.

Do you believe in the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact?

http://www.cglg.org/

If the state of California doesn't want to deal with potential oil spills then the answer isn't to prevent drilling. What they will need to do is route any tanker shipments away from their coastline so that if something were to go wrong, spilled oil would not flow to their coast as that is where a potential spill would come from and not from drilling. More oil seeps from the ocean floor into the ocean then from off shore drilling.

I'm sure if they route them out far enough, with tidal flow, there's a route that would direct potential spills to Oregon and/or Mexico.

Does the federal government own the coast line?

What if a majority of the citizens of Florida or California supported drilling?