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Re: Mountaineers
Well I thot he treated us pretty good.
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Or set us up for a big disappointment.
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He may not think much of our state but he was spot on about the Mountaineer team that ran away from a good UConn team.
Billy's going back to a New Years Day game AND 10 wins and this TEAM is better then last years.
Billy's going back to a New Years Day game AND 10 wins and this TEAM is better then last years.
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Seems I was wrong. WV can't get to the 10 win plateau even with wins of USF and their bowl game.
With an All American QB, a top rate RB and the entire offensive line, this season definately was a set back.
Perhaps Bill Stewart wasn't the right hire. Maybe it was Jeff Mullins who shouldn't have been hired. Or maybe it was just that with such a veteral group, they should have stuck with the old offense for one more year and implemented the motion next year.
I think it would be hard to justify firing either after one year but I don't think either have long ropes. Next year will be very crucial.
With an All American QB, a top rate RB and the entire offensive line, this season definately was a set back.
Perhaps Bill Stewart wasn't the right hire. Maybe it was Jeff Mullins who shouldn't have been hired. Or maybe it was just that with such a veteral group, they should have stuck with the old offense for one more year and implemented the motion next year.
I think it would be hard to justify firing either after one year but I don't think either have long ropes. Next year will be very crucial.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Cicero, 55 BC

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If they feel he's not the right man next year or the year after, the buy out clause won't hinder them from firing him. They will find some donor to come up with the dough.
But I'm sure Mullins doesn't have the same clause. If they struggle offensively next year like they did this, he won't last.
But I'm sure Mullins doesn't have the same clause. If they struggle offensively next year like they did this, he won't last.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Cicero, 55 BC

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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Bowl-viewing-for-value-The-lucky-ones-?urn=ncaaf,130084
Well I hope this evaluation of wvu's future prospects is wrong....
"Most interesting, though, is two programs heading in opposite directions. With Pat White's last hurrah, West Virginia's descent into "just another Big East team" officially begins next year after the most successful three-year run in school history from 2005-07, at the same time Butch Davis' manic recruiting -- already in evidence in the Heels' extreme improvement this year over 2007 -- pushes UNC to the fore of the ACC's power vacuum. You can't do much better than Past vs. Future
Well I hope this evaluation of wvu's future prospects is wrong....
"Most interesting, though, is two programs heading in opposite directions. With Pat White's last hurrah, West Virginia's descent into "just another Big East team" officially begins next year after the most successful three-year run in school history from 2005-07, at the same time Butch Davis' manic recruiting -- already in evidence in the Heels' extreme improvement this year over 2007 -- pushes UNC to the fore of the ACC's power vacuum. You can't do much better than Past vs. Future
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If you look at their recruit page here you will see Doc Holiday and company has recruited a 4 star QB and a couple of 4 star WR's to go along with a bunch of 3 star recruits. Considering the only 4 star recruits RR signed was Jason Gwatney, who didn't pan out and Noel Devine (who may be gone due to grades and certainly isn't living up to his billing yet) I don't think they're in as bad a shape as the author of bowl preview makes out.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Cicero, 55 BC

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This win wasn't a BCS bowl game but it did give Pat White his 4th bowl win as a starting QB, making him the only QB in the history of college football to achieve that feat. The offense looked good, perhaps giving us a peek at what's to come in future years.
Over the past 4 years, WVU's won 40 games and has established themselves as a premeir program in the country. Considering Holiday, Stu and company have recruited a 4 star QB and a couple of 4 star receivers to go with the running game they have coming back, next year they should once again compete for the Big East championship.
Over the past 4 years, WVU's won 40 games and has established themselves as a premeir program in the country. Considering Holiday, Stu and company have recruited a 4 star QB and a couple of 4 star receivers to go with the running game they have coming back, next year they should once again compete for the Big East championship.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Cicero, 55 BC

Aaron- Number of posts: 7544
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I thot the most improved player was the Coach.
I don't know if he is being coached as a coach but he sure seems to be a lot more comfortable in his coach skin and came across as a guy in the right job.
Moreso than before.
I don't know if he is being coached as a coach but he sure seems to be a lot more comfortable in his coach skin and came across as a guy in the right job.
Moreso than before.
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There's a lot to be said for on the job training.
I think he'll be fine so long as he keeps a good staff around him.
The one thing that worries me is that a bigger program will lure some of his better coaches, notably the D-Coordinator Casteel, away with more money.
I think he'll be fine so long as he keeps a good staff around him.
The one thing that worries me is that a bigger program will lure some of his better coaches, notably the D-Coordinator Casteel, away with more money.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Cicero, 55 BC

Aaron- Number of posts: 7544
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I'm of two minds about Stew right now - I still think he's in over his head but, on the other hand, he won as many bowl games as R-Rod.
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West Virginia was ranked 23rd in the final AP poll marking 5 straight years they've been ranked in the top 25.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
Cicero, 55 BC

Aaron- Number of posts: 7544
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I did not see that. I'd think there would be some merit in that.
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