Franklin Graham peppered Obama about ties to Islam

Stephanie wrote:OK, I know this is a little off topic but I have to share this with SOMEBODY.

Today I took Loyd to the Clay Center for a "Homeschool Event Day". As I'm sure many of you are aware many families homeschool for religious reasons, particularly in locations like WV.

So there were a lot of Christian families there and this one little boy of about 4 was wearing this read t-shirt that read

Jesus-Christ


He's the Real Thing!

Like the Coca-Cola slogan thingie.

Who comes up with this stuff? I couldn't even believe anybody would put such a thing on such a young child.

Steph, that's called "conditioning" of the child ......... and "bragging" by the parent.

That is similar to the song they teach young children.



Once you condition children to be believing that,

then it is a natural progression to get them to believe everything else in the Bible is true. And they almost hafta believe what else is written in the Bible is "true", ..... because if they reject it ......... then they know Jesus won't love them.

cheers

As many here (especially Willy) have said, "it's all authoritarianism!!". I can appreciate those who "have the fire of the Gospel" and feel compelled to save the world, etc. There are many more self-described Christians who really are drawn to forcing their beliefs down other's throats. Not that they don't sincerely believe it, it's just that the motivation is a sort of "authoritarianism".

Real Christians or real Muslims would not perform any of the heinous acts mentioned. Real humans however, don't need much prodding to take any philosophy and misuse it to accomplish anything. Religion is the preferred method because if you deny it you are not only disagreeing, but are a pariah.

It's also really easy to abuse people if you've taught them to turn the other cheek.

Well Craig have you read many of James Michener's books?

I liked "The Chesapeake" ..... the best.

Terry, ..... I have more answers than you have questions ..... on just about any subject.

It is easy to come up with answers if you aren't concerned with accuracy...

Sam, I have questions about many things, many of which you have likely never conceived.

It is why I became a scientist.

Stephanie brought up the kid wearing the cocacola shirt.

While I would not dress my children like that, parents are always using their kids to make political statements. I remember back in 2004 going to a county fair with family in Ohio and seeing dozens of kids wearing Kerry/Edwards shirts and thinking "well this is probably not the true expression of what that kid believes." I saw the greatest kid shirt that said "Now that I'm safe, I support Roe v Wade."

So parents use their children to express themselves. I don't. But are there bigger problems in the world? No, you got me, there aren't

shermangeneral wrote:Well Craig have you read many of James Michener's books?

Naaaa. Why? Should I?

I have this one my nightstand right now:


http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-rutten16apr16,0,4337030.story

TerryRC wrote:Terry, ..... I have more answers than you have questions ..... on just about any subject.

It is easy to come up with answers if you aren't concerned with accuracy...

Sam, I have questions about many things, many of which you have likely never conceived.

It is why I became a scientist.

Anyone claiming to be a scientist but who absolutely refuses to entertain the thoughts, ideas and observations of people of all walks of life, ....... gives all real scientists a bad name.

TRC, ponder my statement for 3 or 4 hours, to wit:

I have more answers than you have questions.

And just maybe you will "get its meaning".



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Sorry SF I couldnt get your link to work.

I have a slow dial-up connection.

But most of Michener's books deal at length with the historic division of human societies between "city of Man" and "city of God".

The book is:


'Bad Money' by Kevin Phillips
Which handles money better? A casino or Wall Street? A look at the reckless financing and political decision-making preceding the current economic crisis.

shermangeneral,

Once you join Obamanation you'll have to change your signature to:

SENT ON MY BLACKBERRY

And rather than complaining about your dial-up connection you'll have to say: "I'm typing with my thumbs here!"

Well Jim I keep threatening to get a dish internet connection but the price will need to come down first.

But anyway have you read any of them?

No. I never liked Michener.

ohio county wrote:shermangeneral,

Once you join Obamanation you'll have to change your signature to:

SENT ON MY BLACKBERRY

And rather than complaining about your dial-up connection you'll have to say: "I'm typing with my thumbs here!"

Once you join the 20th Century.

21st Century.