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Post by SFCraig on Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:23 pm

We have the oldest living creatures on Earth.

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2686571080052372595bGvPUh

None other than Sherm!

Also, the largest... the Sequoias.

We are the first state to reach a trillion dollar economy.

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Post by SFCraig on Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:23 pm

Depending on the state of the overall economy, if we were our own country we would have between the 5th and 7th largest economy in the world.

Since 1/8 Americans live here, I'd say the rest of you need to up your productivity! We're sick of doing all the heavy-lifting!

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Post by Aaron on Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:50 pm

Don't you guys have something like a $14,000,000,000.00 (man, that's a lot of zero's) deficit!!!

And you're going to preach to us???

Really???

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Post by SFCraig on Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:58 pm

Aaron wrote:Don't you guys have something like a $14,000,000,000.00 (man, that's a lot of zero's) deficit!!!

And you're going to preach to us???

Really???

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See? We even do deficits bigger than the rest of you. Get to work!

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Post by Aaron on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:07 pm

Umm, dude, that's not a good thing.

You can think your in paradise but I got to tell you man, the beeping ain't an exotic animal, it's the cement truck backing up getting ready to pave. But hey, it least you'll have one more place to park, right dude!!!

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Post by SFCraig on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:14 pm

Aaron wrote:Umm, dude, that's not a good thing.

You can think your in paradise but I got to tell you man, the beeping ain't an exotic animal, it's the cement truck backing up getting ready to pave. But hey, it least you'll have one more place to park, right dude!!!


Truth is we are victims of Direct Democracy. Everything is put to a Ballot Initiative and as you would guess the majority vote for everything. They also vote against funding everything. Smile

Add to it that the most powerful lobbying group in the State is for the Prisons. That's why we have more people in jail than any country on the planet except China. That's only California.

Prisons are very expensive so the 3 strikes thing, mandatory minimums, etc all cost us dearly. Arnie is going to dump the "criminals" on the street soon.

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Post by ohio county on Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:06 pm

Are those your pictures? Do you have a new baby at home?

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Post by SFCraig on Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:54 am

ohio county wrote:Are those your pictures? Do you have a new baby at home?

No, not me. Thanks for your interest, though.

But wasn't it funny to see "The oldest living creature on earth - General Sherman Giant redwood tree - 3000 years old"?

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Post by shermangeneral on Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:57 pm

Do you know how the tree got its name?

Since the tree is older than Sherman the General who liberated most of the southland.

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Post by SamCogar on Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:31 pm

SFCraig wrote:
ohio county wrote:Are those your pictures? Do you have a new baby at home?

No, not me. Thanks for your interest, though.

But wasn't it funny to see "The oldest living creature on earth - General Sherman Giant redwood tree - 3000 years old"?

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Not big, ....... but plenty old.


The bristlecone pines are a small group of pine trees (Family Pinaceae, genus Pinus, subsection Balfourianae) that are thought to reach an age far greater than that of any other single living organism known, up to nearly 5,000 years.

There are three closely related species of bristlecone pine:

Rocky Mountains Bristlecone Pine Pinus aristata in Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona
Great Basin Bristlecone Pine Pinus longaeva in Utah, Nevada and eastern California
Foxtail Pine Pinus balfouriana in California

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Post by ohio county on Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:41 pm

Yes. I'll admit I thought it might be a personal touch. Maybe this isn't the place for that. I have a hard time opposing people all the time. I've lived among hard-core democrats my whole life and have very few enemies. I'd far rather protect my personal relationships at the expense of my political relationships.

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Post by SFCraig on Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:27 pm

ohio county wrote:Yes. I'll admit I thought it might be a personal touch. Maybe this isn't the place for that. I have a hard time opposing people all the time. I've lived among hard-core democrats my whole life and have very few enemies. I'd far rather protect my personal relationships at the expense of my political relationships.

Not sure I follow you OC. Is that in reference to the "picture" question?

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Post by ohio county on Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:01 am

No doubt. I'd wandered a bit too far into the sweet lucy that evening...

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Post by SheikBen on Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:13 pm

SFCraig wrote:
Aaron wrote:Don't you guys have something like a $14,000,000,000.00 (man, that's a lot of zero's) deficit!!!

And you're going to preach to us???

Really???

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

See? We even do deficits bigger than the rest of you. Get to work!

Well done, Craig.

A man who can laugh at his own cause is a friend of mine.

Direct democracy is a fascinating matter, and I'd like to explore it. As I understand it, the three common methods right now are referendum, initiative, and recall. I think people like direct democracy when they agree with the majority and "don't trust it" when they don't!

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Post by SFCraig on Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:59 pm

Exactly. It might surprise you to know that I routinely vote against initiatives, even if it's for "the children". They've managed to make me slightly more "anti-tax" than I was in Chicago. I pay 13 or 14 thousand a year on property taxes and yet they always want to add a parcel tax for "insert cause here".

People are shocked when I tell them that. I respond that we should have a renter's tax for the (library, college, high school) and they begin to understand. I pay more than my fair share of state and federal taxes, believe you me.

That being said, it really is the vortex. Amazing shit happens here, regardless of what they tell you on TV.

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Post by SheikBen on Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:35 am

They don't tell me anything on TV, Craig. I live too far out of town to receive broadcasts (even with the digital converter) and I'm too cheap for cable or satellite.

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Post by shermangeneral on Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:50 am

Well Mike have you considered Sirius radio?

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Hey Sherm

Post by SheikBen on Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:31 am

I'm not one for pay radio, although I do like it when it is in rental cars I use.

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Re: Other California Facts

Post by Aaron on Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:56 am

SFCraig wrote:
We are the first state to reach a trillion dollar economy.

And the first to file for bankruptcy if this keeps up. Yeah, California is such a wonderful place...

California could lay off 10,000 state workers
Tue Feb 10, 9:58 pm ET

SAN FRANCISCO, (AFP) – California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger threatened to fire as many as 10,000 state employees if legislators do not approve a deal later this week to help close the state's projected 42-billion-dollar budget deficit.

The governor's spokesman said layoff warnings would be sent to about 20,000 state workers this Friday if there is no deal.

About half of those workers would have their jobs eliminated by July 1. Employees with the least seniority in each state department would get the layoff notices. The 10,000 job cuts are projected to translate to annual savings of around 750 million dollars.

Most of the state's 238,000 workers already are being forced to take off two Fridays each month without pay.

"We don't have a budget and there's only a few things that the governor can do to save the state money," press secretary Aaron McLear said at a media briefing. "This is simply out of necessity. The state is running out of money."

The governor's warning came as he and legislative leaders struggled to win approval for a package of billions of dollars of spending cuts and tax increases to make up for the budget deficit projected over the next 18 months.

Saying the state is on the brink of running out of money, state Controller John Chiang already has delayed tax refunds and has warned that he soon will be forced to stop paying some state bills or providing funds for some state services.

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