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Post by TerryRC on Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:59 am

The campaign, which launched on Wednesday, urges Israelis to report the particulars of acquaintances living abroad so that these people, who are "in danger" of marrying non-Jews, can be persuaded to come to Israel...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1112400.html

You know who else was a proponent of racial and ethnic purity... ?

Screw Israel. I could care less what happens to it.

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Post by SamCogar on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:42 am

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You know who else was a are proponent(s) of racial and ethnic purity... ?

Millions and millions and millions of people are.

They religiously insure the bloodlines of their domesticated animals and plants via names such as Throughbreds, Registered, Purebred, etc., etc. to insure the best qualities are preserved in the offsprings of said.

But the preserving of the different human bloodlines and the finest qualities in each, ..... NAH, ..... they consider that to be an amoral and unethical act and/or practice.

They prefer cross-breeding and mixed breeding to insure the degeneration of the human race because the same qualities they strive for in their domesticated animals and plants they want no part of within their own species.

Makes one wonder how much longer the human race will remain an intelligent species?

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Post by TerryRC on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:57 am

But the preserving of the different human bloodlines and the finest qualities in each, ..... NAH, ..... they consider that to be an amoral and unethical act and/or practice.

Hybrid vigor produces stronger individuals than does inbreeding. You would think a farm boy from Braxton County would know that.

Any comments on the irony of Jews striving for racial purity, or do you want to get off the subject like Sammy, here?

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Post by Aaron on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:25 am

See, this is one of those situations that could potentially turn into a good conversatin I was talking about but the frequency of your visits will prevent that TC. For the record though, staying within ones race and/or nationality is not inbreeding.
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Post by Stephanie on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:24 pm

How much longer to you suppose "Israel is the only viable democracy in the Middle East" will hold water with average Americans?

Do you suppose they can wriggle out of this one too?

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Post by Aaron on Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:24 pm

I'm not sure if you're talking to me Stephanie but I think the government can snowball the averavge American about Israel for a very long time. We likely won't see a change in our lifetime because the average American hears how Israel is God's chosen people, how God will protect Israel and how God will help those who help Israel and will punish Israel's enemies. And the average American has no idea that we're funding both sides of this war.
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Post by Stephanie on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:40 pm

I wasn't really talking to anyone in particular. More like venting.

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Post by Aaron on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:59 pm

Done that, been there.
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Post by SheikBen on Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:13 pm

TerryRC wrote:The campaign, which launched on Wednesday, urges Israelis to report the particulars of acquaintances living abroad so that these people, who are "in danger" of marrying non-Jews, can be persuaded to come to Israel...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1112400.html

You know who else was a proponent of racial and ethnic purity... ?

Screw Israel. I could care less what happens to it.

Hi Terry,

I don't think this ethnic but strictly religious. It makes no sense to you are irreligious. I am not Jewish obviously, but I do not see anything particularly bigoted in this. They want to encourage people of the Jewish faith to marry others of the Jewish faith. Christians and Muslims (and many Buddhists) believe the same thing. Do you want your daughters marrying born again Christians?SmileSmile

Now the whole "report family abroad" thing is definitely an example of assholery, but the religiously based goal of encouraging intranecine marriages makes sense to me.

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Post by Andrea Cristobal on Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:50 am

SheikBen wrote:
TerryRC wrote:The campaign, which launched on Wednesday, urges Israelis to report the particulars of acquaintances living abroad so that these people, who are "in danger" of marrying non-Jews, can be persuaded to come to Israel...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1112400.html

You know who else was a proponent of racial and ethnic purity... ?

Screw Israel. I could care less what happens to it.

Hi Terry,

I don't think this ethnic but strictly religious. It makes no sense to you are irreligious. I am not Jewish obviously, but I do not see anything particularly bigoted in this. They want to encourage people of the Jewish faith to marry others of the Jewish faith. Christians and Muslims (and many Buddhists) believe the same thing. Do you want your daughters marrying born again Christians?SmileSmile

Now the whole "report family abroad" thing is definitely an example of assholery, but the religiously based goal of encouraging intranecine marriages makes sense to me.

I see a danger in that this could discourage other marriages as well such as interracial relationships. Consider that there is a whole sect of Ethiopian Jews. A very interesting group I might add. Will they limit this policy to just discouraging marriages between religions? Or will the policy broaden as 'purists' become involved? That would disturb me. So do you open the door?
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Post by TerryRC on Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:45 am

Do you want your daughters marrying born again Christians?

I want my daughter to marry someone that makes her happy. Color, religion or sex isn't important to me.

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Post by Andrea Cristobal on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:26 am

TerryRC wrote:Do you want your daughters marrying born again Christians?

I want my daughter to marry someone that makes her happy. Color, religion or sex isn't important to me.

Nor to me should it be.
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Post by Aaron on Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:54 pm

TerryRC wrote:Do you want your daughters marrying born again Christians?

I want my daughter to marry someone that makes her happy. Color, religion or sex isn't important to me.

Come on now. You're telling me that if she came home with the perfect reincaration of a combination of Sam Cogar the good Reverend, you would be perfectly contenet with that???

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Post by TerryRC on Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:39 am

Come on now. You're telling me that if she came home with the perfect reincaration of a combination of Sam Cogar the good Reverend, you would be perfectly contenet with that???

If she was happy, I'd be happy for her (and disappointed for myself).

My parents had the good taste not to interfere in my relationships. I'd like to try and be the same. Besides, easier to drink the ocean with a spoon than chance a lover's mind.

BTW, my best friend is a born again christian and one of the finest people I know. I'm not prejudiced against all christians, just the ones that want to force everyone to "the light", by hook or crook.

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Post by SheikBen on Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:22 am

Your best friend is a born again Christian? Is it me:)SmileSmile??????

Why would you be disappointed for yourself if your daughter married Terrina H?

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Post by SheikBen on Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:26 am

Andrea Cristobal wrote:
SheikBen wrote:
TerryRC wrote:The campaign, which launched on Wednesday, urges Israelis to report the particulars of acquaintances living abroad so that these people, who are "in danger" of marrying non-Jews, can be persuaded to come to Israel...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1112400.html

You know who else was a proponent of racial and ethnic purity... ?

Screw Israel. I could care less what happens to it.

Hi Terry,

I don't think this ethnic but strictly religious. It makes no sense to you are irreligious. I am not Jewish obviously, but I do not see anything particularly bigoted in this. They want to encourage people of the Jewish faith to marry others of the Jewish faith. Christians and Muslims (and many Buddhists) believe the same thing. Do you want your daughters marrying born again Christians?SmileSmile

Now the whole "report family abroad" thing is definitely an example of assholery, but the religiously based goal of encouraging intranecine marriages makes sense to me.

I see a danger in that this could discourage other marriages as well such as interracial relationships. Consider that there is a whole sect of Ethiopian Jews. A very interesting group I might add. Will they limit this policy to just discouraging marriages between religions? Or will the policy broaden as 'purists' become involved? That would disturb me. So do you open the door?

Why do you suppose that religious restrictions will lead to ethnic ones? Ethnic divisions reach beyond merely the Ethiopian Jews, and if they were looking for ethnic purity, I would expect to see that by now.

I HAVE seen appalling racism in the Jewish community in the united states. In one case up in Ohio, the Russian jews wouldn't let the Polish Jews share the synagogue. No kidding.

But I do not see that in this present practice. I never like the idea of "report friends and family abroad" but encouraging intra-religious marriage makes sense as a religious goal, provided it does not become a legal one.

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Post by Andrea Cristobal on Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:39 am

Who is Terrina H?
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Post by SamCogar on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:57 am

Andrea Cristobal wrote:Who is Terrina H?

Andrea, that would be Preacher Terry Hagdorn, Keli or what's his face, all the same.

Terry RC dislikes "all 3 of him" with a passion.

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Post by Andrea Cristobal on Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:59 pm

Is he Sybil? Does he have three incarnations?
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Post by SamCogar on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:10 pm

Not a Sybil .......... an Armon ..... and only 1 incarnation..

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Post by Stephanie on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:48 pm

1 incarnation, but he is racially misassigned. It's complicated....

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Post by Andrea Cristobal on Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:53 pm

Sounds like it could be. If he is happy that is good.
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Post by TerryRC on Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:54 am

Your best friend is a born again Christian? Is it me

I have never even met you.

I'm sure you are a stand-up guy, though. If you can play ping-pong, perhaps we can move you up from acquaintance status.


Why would you be disappointed for yourself if your daughter married Terrina H?

Because I am trying to raise my daughter to have an open mind and, for the most part, religions close minds. I would feel as though it might undo my hard work.

BTW, you don't need to chance the good reverend's name for your example. "Terry" has become a unisex name over the past decades.

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