The confusing questions created by Scientific claims.

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The confusing questions created by Scientific claims.

Post by SamCogar on Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:26 am

If it is settled Science that:

1. The Greenland Ice Sheet (GIS) is up to 4,688 feet thick with the lowest level dating back to roughly 9704 BC (11,700 BP).

2. The accepted start of the warm Holocene Interglacial Period (HIP) began at 11,700 years BP.

3. The Late Wisconsin Glacier (LWG) covered much of Long Island with ice up to 3,300 feet thick at 18,000 years BP when it stopped advancing.

4. Via sea level proxies it is apparent that the Late Wisconsin Glacier started to quickly melt at 15,000 years BP and thus melted the Long Island ice sheet..

Then would someone please answer my following questions which are:

1. How thick was the Greenland Ice Sheet at 18,000 years BP if the Long Island ice sheet was 3,300 feet thick? Greater or less than its current 4,688 feet thickness?

2. Did the Greenland Ice Sheet also start quickly melting at 15,000 years BP along with the Long Island ice sheet?

3. How much of the current 4,688 feet of Greenland Ice Sheet is a remnant of the Late Wisconsin Glacier of 18,000 years BP: all, part, or none of it?

4. If all or part of the current Greenland Ice Sheet is a remnant of the Late Wisconsin Glacier then doesn’t the lowest level actually date much farther back than the settled Science date of 11,704 BP?

5. If the settled Science date of 11,704 BP for the lowest level of the Greenland Ice Sheet is correct then would it not be a scientific fact that the Greenland Ice Sheet had also completely melted prior to the accepted start of the Holocene Interglacial Period and has since reformed to its current 4,688 feet thickness during the extremely warm period of the Holocene Interglacial Period?

6. If the Greenland Ice Sheet completed melted prior to 11,704 BP then didn’t the earth experience a much more pronounced period of warming prior to the accepted start of the Holocene Interglacial Period than it is currently experiencing?

Here following are some interesting facts about "life in Western Europe" during the Little Ice Age.

The Little Ice Age (LIA)

Western Europe experienced a general cooling of the climate between the years 1150 and 1460 and a very cold climate between 1560 and 1850 that brought dire consequences to its peoples. The colder weather impacted agriculture, health, economics, social strife, emigration, and even art and literature. Increased glaciation and storms also had a devastating affect on those that lived near glaciers and the sea.


During the LIA, there was a high frequency of storms. As the cooler air began to move southward, the polar jet stream strengthened and followed, which directed a higher number of storms into the region. At least four sea floods of the Dutch and German coasts in the thirteenth century were reported to have caused the loss of around 100,000 lives. Sea level was likely increased by the long-term ice melt during the MWP (Medieval Warm Period 950–1250) which compounded the flooding. Storms that caused greater than 100,000 deaths were also reported in 1421, 1446, and 1570. Additionally, large hailstorms that wiped out farmland and killed great numbers of livestock occurred over much of Europe due to the very cold air aloft during the warmer months. Due to severe erosion of coastline and high winds, great sand storms developed which destroyed farmlands and reshaped coastal land regions.

Impact of Glaciers

During the post-MWP cooling of the climate, glaciers in many parts of Europe began to advance. Glaciers negatively influenced almost every aspect of life for those unfortunate enough to be living in their path. Glacial advances throughout Europe destroyed farmland and caused massive flooding. On many occasions bishops and priests were called to bless the fields and to pray that the ice stopped grinding forward (Bryson, 1977.) Various tax records show glaciers over the years destroying whole towns caught in their path. A few major advances, as noted by Ladurie (1971), appear below:

1595: Gietroz (Switzerland) glacier advances, dammed Dranse River, and caused flooding of Bagne with 70 deaths.
1600-10: Advances by Chamonix (France) glaciers cause massive floods which destroyed three villages and severely damaged a fourth. One village had stood since the 1200's.
1670-80's: Maximum historical advances by glaciers in eastern Alps. Noticeable decline of human population by this time in areas close to glaciers, whereas population elsewhere in Europe had risen.
1695-1709: Iceland glaciers advance dramatically, destroying farms.
1710-1735: A glacier in Norway was advancing at a rate of 100 m per year for 25 years.
1748-50: Norwegian glaciers achieved their historical maximum LIA positions.


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