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Post by TerryRC Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:50 am

... of those that would wed government and religion... Indonesia's Aceh to allow stoning for adulterers (linky clicky).

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Post by Aaron Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:05 am

What, do you think Barrack Obama is going to revert to his childhood teachings?
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Post by SheikBen Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:08 am

Of course part of the Christian Coalition's "Agenda for America" includes the stoning of adulterers and the drowning of witches.

Thanks, Terry, for exposing this.

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Post by TerryRC Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:30 am

Of course part of the Christian Coalition's "Agenda for America" includes the stoning of adulterers and the drowning of witches.

How about chemical castration of gays? I have heard some on the way right call for exactly that.

Regardless, it starts small. It doesn't just turn into an Indonesia overnight.

What, do you think Barrack Obama is going to revert to his childhood teachings?

Seekret mooslim!

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Post by Aaron Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:13 pm

I have no idea what moolism is. But if you think for one second that the Muslim school Obama attended as a child didn't teach from the Koran, then you're not as smart as you claim to be.
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Post by TerryRC Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:27 am

I have no idea what moolism is. But if you think for one second that the Muslim school Obama attended as a child didn't teach from the Koran, then you're not as smart as you claim to be.

And I want to a catholic elementary school for a while. You see how much I LOVE catholicism and christianity.

Your point?

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Post by Aaron Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:31 am

I'm still waiting on yours.
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Post by TerryRC Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:36 am

I'm still waiting on yours.

I made it - people that want to wed their religion with government are not really thinking it through.

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Post by Aaron Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:51 pm

Consider you've got to quote an event in India which has no bearing whatsoever on American politics or OUR 1st Amendment.

My point.
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Post by TerryRC Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:53 am

My point.

Mine, also.

The reason we don't see this in our beloved country is because groups like the ACLU are constantly fighting to keep christians from making their beliefs our de facto state religion.

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Post by Aaron Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:10 am

Horse hockey TC. For 200 years, long before the ACLU came along our courts did a good job of keeping "christians from making their beliefs our de facto state religion" and you're assertion otherwise is Oscar Meyer.
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Post by SheikBen Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:16 pm

TerryRC,

So do you think that whatever a religion teaches should lead to a policy that is its exact opposite?

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Post by TerryRC Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:35 am

Horse hockey TC. For 200 years, long before the ACLU came along our courts did a good job of keeping "christians from making their beliefs our de facto state religion" and you're assertion otherwise is Oscar Meyer.

Like blue laws and cohabitation laws and...

You get the point.

So do you think that whatever a religion teaches should lead to a policy that is its exact opposite?

No. Logic should be behind legislation, not religious beliefs.

If, for instance, you want to ban gay marriage, come up with some objective research that shows WHY it should be banned. Don't use the argument that it is a sin.

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Post by SheikBen Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:31 pm

Terry,

I contend now and have always contended that the government should not define marriage at all. If the institution of marriage conveys as many protections and benefits as the gay rights crowd says it does, I must ask to what extent we are discriminating against the single. Why can't they have the same protections and visitation rights without being married, I ask.

I would like to know the governments compelling interest in governing marriage before I wish to consider their redefinition of it.

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Post by TerryRC Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:31 am

I contend now and have always contended that the government should not define marriage at all. If the institution of marriage conveys as many protections and benefits as the gay rights crowd says it does, I must ask to what extent we are discriminating against the single. Why can't they have the same protections and visitation rights without being married, I ask.

I'm sorry if I seem to use generalities.

I understand that you are a more moderate christian than, say, Keli. Not necessarily in your beliefs, but in your idea that you bring sheep into the fold by example, not by force.

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