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Post by Keli Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:18 am

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CJTKRO0&show_article=1

TAUNTON, Mass. (AP) - An 8-year-old boy was sent home from school and ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation after he was asked to make a Christmas drawing and came up with what appeared to be a stick figure of Jesus on a cross, the child's father said Tuesday.

Chester Johnson told WBZ-TV that his son made the drawing on Dec. 2 after his second-grade teacher asked children to sketch something that reminded them of the holiday.

Looks like the Christmas message of the Messiah who came to die for the sins of the world is verboten in Nazichusetts.
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Post by Cato Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:54 am

Govenment employees, you gotta love em'.

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Post by Aaron Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:41 am

This must be a mistake as Massachusetts is a moderate state.
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Post by SheikBen Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:53 am

Keli wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CJTKRO0&show_article=1

TAUNTON, Mass. (AP) - An 8-year-old boy was sent home from school and ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation after he was asked to make a Christmas drawing and came up with what appeared to be a stick figure of Jesus on a cross, the child's father said Tuesday.

Chester Johnson told WBZ-TV that his son made the drawing on Dec. 2 after his second-grade teacher asked children to sketch something that reminded them of the holiday.

Looks like the Christmas message of the Messiah who came to die for the sins of the world is verboten in Nazichusetts.

Good that he was sent home. A precious Christian boy will be much better served at home than by the creeps in the schools in Massachusettes. Granted he may never know what "fisting" is, but I think he'll be OK.

Aaron, touche. I think the teacher qualifies as a "Masshole."

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Post by Andrea Cristobal Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:25 am

Actually this is a big thing here and most people are not in agreement with what occurred. The superintendant is saying that the picture the father is showing is not the one that they confiscated from the child. The father is saying it is. Even the Mayor of Taunton is saying the Superintendant was wrong. I believe that the superintendant was wrong. It appears he just mixed up the holidays as little kids might do and didn't have a 'death wish' as some people thought. The psychologist said that the kid is fine. Sounds like only two people agree with this. The superintendant and the teacher. Two people doing the wrong thing does not a state of liberals make. Does WV having Robert Byrd and Jay Rockerfeller make WV and all of you liberals?
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Post by ohio county Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:59 am

Why? Did your Congressional delegation also have a hand in this?
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:45 am

Actually that wasn't the point. Once again I am seeing the 'liberal label' over the actions of a couple of people. I thought WV was considered conservative. Do a couple of less conservative Senators make your state liberal?
I am going to be honest here. I am being called a liberal when I am not. I think the majority of Americans would see most of the group on this site as 'extremely conservative, or far right of center.' That is my opinion. I look at what was posted in a thread, "You're going to drive her away like all of the others." Do you guys know how many members have left here? Do you have an idea? Maybe the question becomes do you really want new members? Or would you be happier with a closed forum with just the group of friends whose views are within your comfort zone? Most of you really don't seem comfortable with someone whose ideas and beliefs are different from yours. Perhaps as a group you all need to sit down and have a serious 'posting conference' about the subject. Decide what you all think is best for the forum and what direction you want it to go in. I actually enjoy the sharp reparte and I have laughed myself to tears over a couple of comments. I wouldn't leave unless I wasn't welcome. I work a great deal (may be doing another double) so I will not always be here and it doesn't mean I can't take the heat as was being implied. It is just my opinion (and only a suggestion) that you guys need to sit down and decide where you want to go with this forum that makes you all happy.


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Post by Stephanie Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:00 am

Holy batcrap!

She thinks WV is a conservative state. No wonder why she thinks MA is moderate.
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Post by SamCogar Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:16 am

Does WV having Robert Byrd and Jay Rockerfeller make WV and all of you liberals? I thought WV was considered conservative.

Are you serious and are you serious?

The majority of voters are highly partisan Democrat and thus whatever Byrd and Rockefeller are any particular day, be it lefty, righty, liberal, moderate, socialist, conservative, communist, Jewish, etc. then that is what they are.

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Post by Aaron Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:18 am

My, my, my it seems Miss Moderate has really taken us conservatives to the woodshed over our actions in this forum. I must say, it has been quite some time since I've been dressed down is such a manner. I'm speechless.

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Post by SamCogar Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:47 am

Andrea Cristobal wrote:
I am going to be honest here. I am being called a liberal when I am not. I think the majority of Americans would see most of the group on this site as 'extremely conservative, or far right of center.' That is my opinion.

Beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.

I look at what was posted in a thread, "You're going to drive her away like all of the others." Do you guys know how many members have left here? Do you have an idea?


Well "DUH", this is not a Bible Study Group on an Internet Church that knows iffen ya keep um happy they will keep making cash donations. Iffen they can't stand the heat then they hafta get out of the kitchen.

Maybe the question becomes do you really want new members? Or would you be happier with a closed forum with just the group of friends whose views are within your comfort zone?


Our "comfort zone"? Be serious now. Iffen ya join in to express your opinion then you should be able to "back it up" with facts and/or figures. But iffen ya only join to "push your agenda" or to brainwash someone into believing what you want them to believe ......... then let the fun begin.

Most of you really don't seem comfortable with someone whose ideas and beliefs are different from yours.


Yeah, that's true, we are not very nice because we don't pat everyone on the back telling them they are marvelous and doing a great job so they don't get their feelings hurt.

Perhaps as a group you all need to sit down and have a serious 'posting conference' about the subject.

Now I don't know how itany subjects could be any more serious than they already are.

Decide what you all think is best for the forum and what direction you want it to go in. I actually enjoy the sharp reparte and I have laughed myself to tears over a couple of comments. I wouldn't leave unless I wasn't welcome.

And you want to make changes!!!! affraid ...... Now that sure is weird. Mass. 2nd-grader sent home for crucifix drawing 81632 elephant

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Post by Andrea Cristobal Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:43 pm

SamCogar wrote:
Andrea Cristobal wrote:
I am going to be honest here. I am being called a liberal when I am not. I think the majority of Americans would see most of the group on this site as 'extremely conservative, or far right of center.' That is my opinion.

Beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.

I look at what was posted in a thread, "You're going to drive her away like all of the others." Do you guys know how many members have left here? Do you have an idea?


Well "DUH", this is not a Bible Study Group on an Internet Church that knows iffen ya keep um happy they will keep making cash donations. Iffen they can't stand the heat then they hafta get out of the kitchen.

Maybe the question becomes do you really want new members? Or would you be happier with a closed forum with just the group of friends whose views are within your comfort zone?


Our "comfort zone"? Be serious now. Iffen ya join in to express your opinion then you should be able to "back it up" with facts and/or figures. But iffen ya only join to "push your agenda" or to brainwash someone into believing what you want them to believe ......... then let the fun begin.

Most of you really don't seem comfortable with someone whose ideas and beliefs are different from yours.


Yeah, that's true, we are not very nice because we don't pat everyone on the back telling them they are marvelous and doing a great job so they don't get their feelings hurt.

Perhaps as a group you all need to sit down and have a serious 'posting conference' about the subject.

Now I don't know how itany subjects could be any more serious than they already are.

Decide what you all think is best for the forum and what direction you want it to go in. I actually enjoy the sharp reparte and I have laughed myself to tears over a couple of comments. I wouldn't leave unless I wasn't welcome.

And you want to make changes!!!! affraid ...... Now that sure is weird. Mass. 2nd-grader sent home for crucifix drawing 81632 elephant

I was just making a suggestion based on what I have perceived. I didn't take anyone to the woodshed. I expressed an opinion which is what I keep hearing you all say this site is about. And I didn't Sam mention anything about wanting to make changes. I said that was up to you to decide. To me WV has always seemed to be conservative. It was portrayed that way in the run up to the election. It's your state as MA is mine. If you don't think it is, you live here so I presume you know better than I.
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Post by Keli Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:06 pm

World Net Daily ^ | 12/17/09 | Chelsea Schilling

A student says a Dallas public community-college teacher compared crosses to swastikas while explaining a school ban on religious items made in ceramics classes.
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:14 pm

Now who would have thought that of little Texas where Rick Perry wants to secede.
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Post by SamCogar Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:22 pm

And I didn't Sam mention anything about wanting to make changes.


But Andrea, you told us to .... "Decide what you all think is best for the forum" ....... and that was after you told us what all was wrong with it ........ and before you told us you "actually enjoy the sharp reparte".


You all decide, ....... that's wrong, ....... I enjoy it. geek

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Post by Andrea Cristobal Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:27 pm

I just love Sam the way you take things out of context to make a point. Not a valid one, but a point nonetheless. Sleep
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Post by Stephanie Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:39 pm

Andrea, if the MSM made WV out to be "conservative" in the run up to the election, you were only seeing and hearing what you wanted to see and hear.

There was no way in freaking hell WV was going to go to a black man named Obama. Racism is alive and well in the Mountain State.
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:43 pm

How was I only seeing and hearing what I wanted to?
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Post by Stephanie Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:00 pm

Not all of the people.......but a clear majority of the citizens of this state old enough to vote are racists. They fly the rebel flag here, Andrea. One of my neighbors on down the ridge a bit has it painted on his garage door.
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Post by SheikBen Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:47 pm

Stephanie,

Do you think all who fly the stars and bars are racists?

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Post by Stephanie Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:17 am

No, but I think even those who aren't won't or can't take into consideration what that flag symbolizes to most black Americans.

btw........I am of the opinion that EVERYONE is racist, but in varying degrees. In general, the racism of New England is different from the racism in WV. For one thing, it's more subtle. It's also a lot more private.
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Post by Keli Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:15 am

Stephanie wrote:No, but I think even those who aren't won't or can't take into consideration what that flag symbolizes to most black Americans.

btw........I am of the opinion that EVERYONE is racist, but in varying degrees. In general, the racism of New England is different from the racism in WV. For one thing, it's more subtle. It's also a lot more private.

I like people from Massachusetts or Rhode Island; but, I wouldn't want my daughter marrying one--especially a female.
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:54 am

I think that is sad Stephanie. You are absolutely right. Racism exists here but it is a lot more under the surface, hidden. Actually it is harder to identify. Once in a while you see something blatant, but not often. There are a couple of White Supremacist type publications but that stuff is not usual. In private though its different. That is actually just as sad and maybe more so.
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Post by Stephanie Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:06 am

I disagree, Andrea. I believe people are racist, it's part of being human. When I was 16 years (1980), one of my classmates, the daughter of my hs vice principal, began dating SHS's only black student. My parents had a cow, insisting Liz was dating Kevin strictly to punish her father. He warned me to "never bring home one of 'them'". If I did, he promised to beat him to death while I watched so I'd never do it again. I didn't doubt him for a minute. Up until that moment in time, I never knew just how racist my father was. The only black people I can think of that he, or any of us, ever discussed were Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder (both my father still admires greatly), Lionel Richie (he loathes) and Richard Pryor (who my parents always swore hated white people.) Martin Luther King came up because Congress was debating creating a holiday for him. Nobody in my little corner of the universe favored that. Personally, I still oppose it because in my view it is divisive.

I have had total strangers say some really hateful things about blacks here. I can't bring myself to repeat them. It's a completely different experience.
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Post by SheikBen Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:47 am

"Racism," while alive and wrong, has become the excuse for far too many of society's problems. In Chicago, there is an unfortunate epidemic of black teens killing other black teens. No one up here is willing to say that the black community in Chicago is first, second, and lastly responsible for stopping this. It is always the gun makers' fault, the fault of the police for not being there, the fault of "racism" that makes the south and west sides of Chicago so dangerous.

Instead of spending money to feed the hungry and confront inner city violence, the Southern Poverty Law Center tells people not to fly the confederate flag. Now I am a northerner's northerner. My mother's side is from New York State and Ohio. My father's side was still in Germany during the rebellion. I have no natural affinity for Dixie, except that it seems to drive a lot of people bonkers who should really be concentrating on more important things.

I went to Hillbilly Days down in Pikeville, Kentucky, and saw an African American selling confederate flags. We have quite a few gomers down here flying the confederate flag (they must not have a map:) but I know several are better people than I am.

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