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Post by Keli Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:38 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/opinion/28gore.html?hp

It is true that the climate panel published a flawed overestimate of the melting rate of debris-covered glaciers in the Himalayas, and used information about the Netherlands provided to it by the government, which was later found to be partly inaccurate. In addition, e-mail messages stolen from the University of East Anglia in Britain showed that scientists besieged by an onslaught of hostile, make-work demands from climate skeptics may not have adequately followed the requirements of the British freedom of information law.

But the scientific enterprise will never be completely free of mistakes. What is important is that the overwhelming consensus on global warming remains unchanged.


Riiiiight...claims of Global Warming were "flawed" and "inaccurate" and scientists were deceitful and biased; BUT, you can believe the rest....HONEST!
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Post by ziggy Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:48 pm

Sounds about like the excuses some religionists offer when their doctrines are found wanting.
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Post by Keli Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:52 pm

ziggy wrote:Sounds about like the excuses some religionists offer when their doctrines are found wanting.

If you question religion for being wanting, then why do you accept this so-called science hook, line and sinker?
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Post by Keli Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:53 pm

Scientists at the heart of the Climategate row were yesterday accused by a leading academic body of undermining science's credibility.

The Institute of Physics said 'worrying implications' had been raised after it was revealed the University of East Anglia had manipulated data on global warming.

The rebuke - the strongest yet from the scientific community - came as Professor Phil Jones, the researcher at the heart of the scandal, told MPs he had written 'some pretty awful emails' - but denied trying to suppress data.

On the spot: Professor Phil Jones being grilled by the Science and Technology committee in the Commons yesterday

The Climategate row, which was first revealed by the Daily Mail in November, was triggered when a hacker stole hundreds of emails sent from East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit.

They revealed scientists plotting how to avoid responding to Freedom of Information requests from climate change sceptics.

Some even appeared to show the researchers discussing how to manipulate raw data from tree rings about historical temperatures.

In one, Professor Jones talks about using a 'trick' to massage figures and 'hide the decline'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254660/Climategate-expert-tells-MPs.html#ixzz0gyZ8IEui
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Post by ziggy Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:02 pm

Keli wrote:
ziggy wrote:Sounds about like the excuses some religionists offer when their doctrines are found wanting.

If you question religion for being wanting, then why do you accept this so-called science hook, line and sinker?

As I have said here before, I do not accept the various AGW propositions as fact. There is more that we do not know about it than what we do know about it.
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Post by Keli Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:27 pm

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/disclosure_east_ang.pdf
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