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Post by Aaron Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:28 am

I recall the debate where he said if he were the nominee, he would set down with the Republican nominee and if they could agree, both would accept federal financing.

Not only did he not meet with McCain, he didn't call and his campaign didn't attempt to contact McCain's camapaign.

Is this the type of change we can expect from BO?

"I will sit down with John McCain and make sure that we have a system that works for everybody," he said at a February 26 debate in Cleveland, a position he repeated in an April 27 interview with Fox News.
"I have promised that I will sit down with John McCain and talk about, can we preserve a public system, as long as we are taking into account third party, independent expenditures," he said.
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Post by Stephanie Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:49 pm

Yeah.......Obama's a liar. John McCain is a fool and/or a fraud.

“Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war.”

-John McCain
June 2008 Campaign Ad

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"

-John McCain
April 2007 South Carolina "Town Hall Meeting"
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Post by Aaron Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:02 pm

Like it or not, one of the two is going to be the next President of the United States of America.
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Post by Stephanie Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:32 pm

I don't like it and I won't vote for either one of them. I still intend to vote write in Ron Paul. I have decided I can't support Barr. I have tried and tried and tried but it can't be done. lol
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Post by Cato Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:28 pm

Aaron wrote:I recall the debate where he said if he were the nominee, he would set down with the Republican nominee and if they could agree, both would accept federal financing.

Not only did he not meet with McCain, he didn't call and his campaign didn't attempt to contact McCain's camapaign.

Is this the type of change we can expect from BO?

"I will sit down with John McCain and make sure that we have a system that works for everybody," he said at a February 26 debate in Cleveland, a position he repeated in an April 27 interview with Fox News.
"I have promised that I will sit down with John McCain and talk about, can we preserve a public system, as long as we are taking into account third party, independent expenditures," he said.
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I remember on the other board you gave me blazes because I said Obama was a Muslim. Whether he is or not is no longer important, because what he is, is a liar. He should fit in quite well with the pack of swine that presently occupies the Halls of Congress.

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Post by Aaron Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:10 pm

Being a liar does not make one a Muslim. Don't you know Christians invented lying at the dawn of time and have since perfected it. No one does it better or more often.

And just for the record, he is one of the members of the halls of Congress.
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Post by SheikBen Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:33 pm

Aaron,

Being as though Jesus Christ came in the flesh 2000 years ago, I can hardly see Christians at the dawn of time inventing lying.

Unless you are making a theological point about Old Testament worshippers of God who expected that He Himself would become a man and take on the sins of the world. But then you are dealing with very few people indeed, and what record to you have of them inventing deception?

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Post by SamCogar Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:30 am

I would suspect that there was a little bit of lying being conducted throughout this affair:

King David, in his moving prayer of repentance after the murder of Uriah and adultery with Bathsheba, cries out, "Against You, You only, have I sinned, and done this evil in Your sight" (Psalm 51:4). Did he not also sin against Uriah, Bathsheba, the nation, his wives, and his children? Of course!
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/1562/Infidelity.htm

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Post by SheikBen Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:32 am

Sure, Sam, but even King David was not there "since time began."
I'm not suggesting that Christians never lie, or that I never lie, but rather that it is not our invention and neither is it our franchise.

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Post by Aaron Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:46 am

SheikBen wrote:Aaron,

Being as though Jesus Christ came in the flesh 2000 years ago, I can hardly see Christians at the dawn of time inventing lying.

Unless you are making a theological point about Old Testament worshippers of God who expected that He Himself would become a man and take on the sins of the world. But then you are dealing with very few people indeed, and what record to you have of them inventing deception?

Actually Mike, I was referencing back to Adam lying to God. I realize that's Old Testament and long before Christ' time on earth but it wasn't meant as a theological argument. Christians do trace themselves back to Adam and the Garden of Eden if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by SheikBen Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:50 am

I trace myself back to Adam as the schmuck who brought trouble into the world, eventually leading to the reason why SheikBen is such a schmuck as well. I would not call him a Christian, but rather the reason the crucified Christ is necessary in the first place.

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Post by Aaron Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:04 am

True but I think you understand why I said the beginning of time. Perhaps I should have said man instead of Christian.

At any rate, that is what I meant.
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Post by SheikBen Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:20 am

Lying is a very human condition. I suppose Obama is human after all! I don't suppose that many liberals will be taking down their altars, however.

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Post by SamCogar Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:37 am

SheikBen wrote:Sure, Sam, but even King David was not there "since time began."
I'm not suggesting that Christians never lie, or that I never lie, but rather that it is not our invention and neither is it our franchise.

Mike, just funnin with ya all.

I could have cited Cain lying to Able ...... or Eve lying to Adam. Laughing

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Post by Aaron Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:45 am

In the words of Adam, the excuse given by man for for all of his troubles...

"It was the woman God, it was that damn woman..."
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