Obama: Mother of Manchurian Candidates?

Aaron wrote:

ziggy wrote:

I'm sure he is more then adequately prepared to handle himself in a religious debate with you Frank ..............

Then why does he back down every time I challenge him on religion?

Perhaps it has something to do with an Einstein quote Bill Sommers was found of quoting.

Something about arguing with idiots and getting down on their level. When I get time I'll find the quote.

I have never called Keli an idiot, nor him me. Why don't you let him speak for himself?

YOU ask me a question Frank.

Perhaps you should go get your medicine.

Aaron wrote:So then tell me Frank, how is me stating a simple fact, 75% of Americans acknowledge christianity as their faith apply to your pathetic rant?

It doesn't. I never said it did apply.

Nor have you shown that those 75% really are Christians.

Aaron wrote:YOU ask me a question Frank.

Perhaps you should go get your medicine.

It isn't my fault that you can't answer the question.

I answered your question and I don't have to show that 75% of Americans are Christians. I'm stating what is an accepted fact. If you can't deal with that, tough.

ziggy wrote:

I'm sure he is more then adequately prepared to handle himself in a religious debate with you Frank ..............

Then why does he back down every time I challenge him on religion?

I found the quote. Bill was wrong. Einstein didn't say it. I'm not sure who did but I it very well could, imho, answer the question you ask me above.

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!

Stephanie wrote:Now you see, this is exactly the problem I have with so many atheists and agnostics. As an agnostic, I don't think it's too much to ask for a bit of courtesy and respect regarding my lack of religion.

However, that is a two way street. In return, I do my very best to be respectful of whatever god others do believe in. I see no reason to be so antagonistic towards each other.

I agree. But it is a two way street. If the evangelicals keep their Gods inside their pens, I'll do the same. But if they try to tell me how wrong my life is because I don't share their faith, then I'll likely respond. But too many don't want a two way street. They want to preach it, but without challenge. If that's what they expect, then they need to preach it to someone more submissive and less challenging.

ziggy wrote:

Stephanie wrote:Now you see, this is exactly the problem I have with so many atheists and agnostics. As an agnostic, I don't think it's too much to ask for a bit of courtesy and respect regarding my lack of religion.

However, that is a two way street. In return, I do my very best to be respectful of whatever god others do believe in. I see no reason to be so antagonistic towards each other.

I agree. But it is a two way street. If the evangelicals keep their Gods inside their pens, I'll do the same. But if they try to tell me how wrong my life is because I don't share their faith, then I'll likely respond. But too many don't want a two way street. They want to preach it, but without challenge. If that's what they expect, then they need to preach it to someone more submissive and less challenging.

And we're you arguing with just those that preached it, that would be fine Frank. But that's not the case and we all know it.

Anytime anyone mentions religion, you get on your high horse and start spouting off your BS requiring proof that has to meet your standards or they are wrong. And I'm telling you loud and clear, NOTHING has to be proven to you. PERIOD.

And as long as you insist it does, I'll call you for what you are. An arrogant ass.

You arrogant ass!!!

Well, I have been called worse by others at least as good as you. So I am not impressed.

The one thing I can honestly say Frank is that as long as I've known you, read your post and figured out what you opinon on things was, the one thing I've NEVER been concerned about is impressing you.