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When is a hate crime not a hate crime?

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Post by Keli Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:34 am

DRUDGE:

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

Homeowners hang Palin Effigy in W Hollywood; No arrests...
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Post by TerryRC Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:54 am

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

Campuses have their own rules and public safety officers. I don't agree with it, but that is the way it is.

I take it you are against the "free speech" zones that Bush favors to quell protests?

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Post by Keli Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:15 am

TerryRC wrote:2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

Campuses have their own rules and public safety officers. I don't agree with it, but that is the way it is.

I take it you are against the "free speech" zones that Bush favors to quell protests?

Did you know that WVU, bastion of free speech, has a free speech zone just outside the doors of the Mountainlair where protests must be held? Do you think that it would have been okay to hang an Obama or Palin effigy there?
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Post by ziggy Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:36 am

Homeowners hang Palin Effigy in W Hollywood; No arrests...

Homeowners?

Why would there be arrests for no violations?
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Post by sodbuster Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:07 am

Heck zig these guys/gals on the right don't need a specific charge or violation of some law.

Just arrest them first and figure out what charge later.

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Post by Aaron Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:09 am

Perhaps you guys on the left can explain how one is a crime and the other isn't?

That shoudldn't be hard for you to do sherm.
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Post by ziggy Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:23 am

Aaron wrote:Perhaps you guys on the left can explain how one is a crime and the other isn't?

That shoudldn't be hard for you to do sherm.

The homeowner gets to make his / her own rules. Legally, visitors to a college campus don't have that degree of absolute freedom.

Heck, a few years ago in a couple in Charleston was arrested by Charleston P.D. officers, at the state capitol on the 4th of July, for wearing politically incorrect t-shirts. The next day, the city wisely dropped the charges and apologized profusely and publicly for its officers' outrageous conduct in making those arrests.
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Post by sodbuster Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:38 am

Well the boys in Ky are charged with burglary for breaking in and stealing the stuff to make the dummy.

And they violated the UK code of conduct.

There were no allegations that the Cal. dummy was stolen, and the homeowners can establish their own code of conduct far as I know.

I am not familiar with Cal law but I doubt there would be an applicable law for doing this on your own property.

But the UK article mentions nothing about any "hate crime".

Only burglary and violating UK code of conduct.

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Post by Aaron Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:42 am

A state code of conduct. I had a state trooper in Lincoln county that threatened to arrest me for disrespecting an officer of the law.

I told him I was no longer in the Army and laughed at him.
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Post by bmd Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:48 pm

sodbuster wrote:But the UK article mentions nothing about any "hate crime". Only burglary and violating UK code of conduct.

The devil is in the details. Kind of like the Joe, the wanna-be plumber, fairy tale. Right-wingers seem to think that if THEY ignore the details (in either story), then the details will never be discovered.


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Post by ohio county Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:32 pm

If Joe's name was Rashid you'd be on the story of his private records being examined by state employees like white on rice. Thank you for pointing out my hypocrisy while ignoring your own.
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Post by sodbuster Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:39 pm

What are you talking about OC?

Are you on the right thread?

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Post by ohio county Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:41 pm

No.
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Post by Stephanie Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:21 pm

That doesn't change the validity of OC's statement one iota.
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Post by Keli Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:24 am

sodbuster wrote:What are you talking about OC?

Are you on the right thread?

That's not the question. The question is, "Can Jessco dance?"
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