The people’s Reps said "NO", … but so what.

Treasury ready to prevent collapse of automakers

WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department said Friday it's prepared to act to avoid any possible collapse of nation's three largest auto companies given that rescue efforts in Congress have failed.

"Because Congress failed to act, we will stand ready to prevent an imminent failure until Congress reconvenes and acts to address the long-term viability of the industry," said Treasury spokeswoman Brookly McLaughlin.

http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/shared-gen/ap/Finance_General/Treasury_Autos.html

Now that sounds like an "Order" telling Congress what they had better do, ....... or else.




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That 3/4 of a trillion dollar October bail-out bill, like grandma's nightgown, covered everything.

You mean the bill that House Republicans soundly defeated until it was added to a previous Senate spending bill and bribed enough representatives to switch their votes?

Aaron wrote:You mean the bill that House Republicans soundly defeated until it was added to a previous Senate spending bill and bribed enough representatives to switch their votes?

Yeah, I think that's the one. Either way, it is basically a Treasury Secretary's and President's slush fund.

I think you mean Congress (Reid/Pelosi) and the Treasury's slush fund. The original bill called for no oversight but one of the items added by the democratic Congress was their, while somewhat limited, oversight.

I think the reason they conceded to so much power by the SecTreas is because they figured Obama would appoint one of their own next month.

At any rate, it's hard to lay this one off on Republicans, at least in the house, as it was they who did their best to carry out the will of the people.

Aaron wrote:At any rate, it's hard to lay this one off on Republicans, at least in the house, as it was they who did their best to carry out the will of the people.

Why are you so obsessed with partisanism? Who is trying to "lay this one off on Republicans"? The Republicans got that one right- even if their motives were suspect.

As to "the will of the people", I think it was you who has said here, more than once, that the people are not always right anyway- and that important decisions should not be left up to the will of the people.

ziggy wrote:As to "the will of the people", I think it was you who has said here, more than once, that the people are not always right anyway- and that important decisions should not be left up to the will of the people.

Silly boy, that decision was not "the will of the people", ...... and was not left up to them to decide.



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You calling anyone out on partisanship is the pot calling...

Well, you know.

And no, I've never said that the people are not always right anyway- and that important decisions should not be left up to the will of the people.

I've said we have a form of government in which we elect 2 separate houses of Congress to do operate our government on a day to day basis and that every function of government can not be put up for a vote by the people as you desire.

Dispite your attempted distortion, it's not the same thing. It's not even close.

Nice try though.

SamCogar wrote:

ziggy wrote:As to "the will of the people", I think it was you who has said here, more than once, that the people are not always right anyway- and that important decisions should not be left up to the will of the people.

Silly boy, that decision was not "the will of the people", ...... and was not left up to them to decide..

Sam, tell that to Aaron:

Aaron wrote:At any rate, it's hard to lay this one off on Republicans, at least in the house, as it was they who did their best to carry out the will of the people.

I've said we have a form of government in which we elect 2 separate houses of Congress to do operate our government on a day to day basis and that every function of government can not be put up for a vote by the people ........................

And? Most any even 7th grader already knows this. So what's your point?

80+% of Americans opposed the bailout yet it was passed despite the best efforts of House Republicans to carry out what their constitutients wanted.

One Senator lost his re-election bid this year as a result of that vote. I would lay even money he won't be the last. In the end, the people will speak.

ziggy wrote:

I've said we have a form of government in which we elect 2 separate houses of Congress to do operate our government on a day to day basis and that every function of government can not be put up for a vote by the people ........................

And? Most any even 7th grader already knows this. So what's your point?

If you know it (I'm probably making a mistake by assuming you're smarter then a 7th grader but what the hey) then why do you consistently support Congress getting permission from the people for every decision?

ziggy wrote:

I've said we have a form of government in which we elect 2 separate houses of Congress to do operate our government on a day to day basis and that every function of government can not be put up for a vote by the people ........................

And? Most any even 7th grader already knows this. So what's your point?

HA, .... not in WV.

And I doubt that very many HS grads in WV know it.

And most probably not very many Teachers.


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Aaron wrote:If you know it (I'm probably making a mistake by assuming you're smarter then a 7th grader but what the hey .............)

Probably. But it would not be a mistake to assume that I am more informed than the average 7th grader.

............................ then why do you consistently support Congress getting permission from the people for every decision?

I don't. You obvioulsy have me confused with someone else. I know well that the USA is a republic, not a democracy.

But I do believe that the individual states should allow public referendums on citizen initiated referendums within guidelines established by law. Some states do this. West Virginia does not.

At 2,215 pages, this is the UAW's contract with Ford. How many pages you figure cover cost savings or competitive issues?

I would lay 10 to 1 odds that there aren't 3 people in the world that know what all that contract contains.