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PREDICTION
Soon CLIMATE CHANGE will replace the embarrassing term GLOBAL WARMING.
Ich bin Ala-awkbarph- Number of posts : 2310
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/392789_murdockonline19.html
Global cooling is here
DEROY MURDOCK
As global cooling becomes more widely recognized, Americans from Maine to Malibu should feel comfortable dreaming of a white Christmas.
Deroy Murdock is a columnist with Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University. E-mail him at deroy.Murdock@gmail.com
Global cooling is here
DEROY MURDOCK
Winter officially arrives with Sunday's solstice. But for many Americans, autumn 2008's final days already feel like deepest, coldest January.
New Englanders still lack electricity after a Dec. 11 ice storm snapped power lines. Up to eight inches of snow struck New Orleans and southern Louisiana that day and didn't melt for 48 hours in some neighborhoods.
In southern California Wednesday, a half-inch of snow brightened Malibu's hills while a half-foot barricaded highways and marooned commuters in desert towns east of Los Angeles. Three inches of the white stuff shuttered Las Vegas' McCarren Airport that day and dusted the Strip's hotels and casinos.
What are the odds of that?
Actually, the odds are rising that snow, ice, and cold will grow increasingly common. As serious scientists repeatedly explain, global cooling is here. It is chilling temperatures and so-called "global-warming."
According to the National Climatic Data Center, 2008 will be America's coldest year since 1997, thanks to La Niña and precipitation in the central and eastern states. Solar quietude also may underlie global cooling. This year's sunspots and solar radiation approach the minimum in the Sun's cycle, corresponding with lower Earth temperatures. This echoes Harvard-Smithsonian astrophysicist Dr. Sallie Baliunas' belief that solar variability, much more than CO2, sways global temperatures.
Meanwhile, the National Weather Service reports that last summer was Anchorage's third coldest on record. "Not since 1980 has there been a summer less reflective of global warming," Craig Medred wrote in the Anchorage Daily News. Consequently, Alaska's glaciers are thickening in the middle. "It's been a long time on most glaciers where they've actually had positive mass balance," U.S. Geological Survey glaciologist Bruce Molnia told Medred Oct. 13. Similarly, the National Snow and Ice Data Center found that Arctic sea ice expanded 13.2 percent this year, or a Texas-sized 270,000 square miles.
Across the equator, Brazil endured an especially cold September. Snow graced its southern provinces that month.
"Global Warming is over, and Global Warming Theory has failed. There is no evidence that CO2 drives world temperatures or any consequent climate change," Imperial College London astrophysicist and long-range forecaster Piers Corbyn wrote British Members of Parliament on Oct. 28. "According to official data in every year since 1998, world temperatures have been colder than that year, yet CO2 has been rising rapidly." That evening, as the House of Commons debated legislation on so-called "global-warming," October snow fell in London for the first time since 1922.
These observations parallel those of five German researchers led by Professor Noel Keenlyside of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences. "Our results suggest that global surface temperature may not increase over the next decade," they concluded in last May's "Nature," "as natural climate variations in the North Atlantic and tropical Pacific temporarily offset the projected anthropogenic (man-made) warming."
This "lull" should doom the 0.54 degree Fahrenheit average global temperature rise predicted by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Vatican of so-called "global warming." Incidentally, the IPCC's computer models factor in neither El Niño nor the Gulf Stream. Excluding such major climate variables would be like ESPN ignoring baseball and basketball.
So, is this all just propaganda concocted by Chevron-funded, right-wing, flat-Earthers? Ask Dr. Martin Hertzberg, a physical chemist and retired Navy meteorologist.
"As a scientist and lifelong liberal Democrat, I find the constant regurgitation of the anecdotal, fear mongering clap-trap about human-caused global warming to be a disservice to science," Hertzberg wrote in Sept. 26's USA Today. "From the El Niño year of 1998 until Jan., 2007, the average temperature of the Earth's atmosphere near its surface decreased some 0.25 C (0.45 F). From Jan., 2007 until the spring of 2008, it dropped a whopping 0.75 C (1.35 F)."
As global cooling becomes more widely recognized, Americans from Maine to Malibu should feel comfortable dreaming of a white Christmas.
Deroy Murdock is a columnist with Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University. E-mail him at deroy.Murdock@gmail.com
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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DRUDGEREPORT:
SNOWBLAST SET FOR GOTHAM; UP TO 9-INCHES... DEVELOPING...
Watches/Warnings...
Heavy Snow, Detroit to New York; More coming to Chicago...
Coldest Weather Possible In Nearly 15 Years...
SNOWBLAST SET FOR GOTHAM; UP TO 9-INCHES... DEVELOPING...
Watches/Warnings...
Heavy Snow, Detroit to New York; More coming to Chicago...
Coldest Weather Possible In Nearly 15 Years...
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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Chicago Socked By Snow... Over 8 Inches At O'Hare...
SNOWBLAST SET FOR GOTHAM; UP TO 5-INCHES... DEVELOPING...
Watches/Warnings...
Heavy Snow, Detroit to New York; More coming to Chicago...
Coldest Weather Possible In Nearly 15 Years...
How long will it be before we are castigated by the Global Warningists that "since the knuckle-dragging public does not understand that cold means warm, that we are going to start addressing the issue by calling it climate change?"
Ich bin Ala-awkbarph- Number of posts : 2310
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Life At -78 Degrees In Alaska...
Ich bin Ala-awkbarph- Number of posts : 2310
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Incidentally, the IPCC's computer models factor in neither El Niño nor the Gulf Stream. Excluding such major climate variables would be like ESPN ignoring baseball and basketball.
And neither does the IPCC's computer models factor in Sun Spots or the Sun Spot Cycle. Excluding them would be like ESPN ignoring NFL Football and the Superbowl.
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SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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Armon Ayers wrote:Soon CLIMATE CHANGE will replace the embarrassing term GLOBAL WARMING.
Kyoto Redux: Clinton Vows to Use Cabinet Position to Push for Climate Treaty
Secretary of State nominee and Senate Foreign Relations Chair both call global warming a 'security threat.'
By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
1/13/2009
Change we can all believe in? How about the same song and dance, but just a different day?
In opening remarks at her confirmation hearing on Jan. 13, President-elect Barack Obama’s Secretary of State designate Hillary Clinton told the Senate Foreign Relations committee she would use the office to shape foreign policy that would fight climate change
“You Mr. Chairman [Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.] were among the very first in a growing chorus from both parties to recognize that climate change is an unambiguous security threat,” Clinton said. “At the extreme it threatens our very existence. But well before that point, it could well incite new wars of an old kind over basic resources – like food, water and arable land.”
According to Clinton, the upcoming 2009 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) conference in Copenhagen will be the stage for the next opportunity for the United States to ratify a climate change treaty like the Kyoto Protocol, which was rejected by the U.S. Senate 95-0 in 1997.
“President-elect Obama has said America must be a leader in developing and implementing a global and coordinated response to climate change,” Clinton said. “We will participate in the upcoming Copenhagen climate conference and a global energy forum. And we’ll pursue an energy policy that reduces our carbon emissions while reducing our dependence on foreign oil and gas, fighting climate change and enhancing our economic and energy security.”
CAN I CALL THEM--OR CAN I CALL THEM!?
Ich bin Ala-awkbarph- Number of posts : 2310
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DRUDGE:
Chicago has most consecutive days of snowfall since records began in 1884...
Flint, Michigan breaks 95-year-old record...
Blowing snow, frigid temps pound nation...
40 BELOW ZERO...
Frigid air, perhaps coldest of winter...
Watches/Warnings...
Live Chill Map...
Chicago has most consecutive days of snowfall since records began in 1884...
Flint, Michigan breaks 95-year-old record...
Blowing snow, frigid temps pound nation...
40 BELOW ZERO...
Frigid air, perhaps coldest of winter...
Watches/Warnings...
Live Chill Map...
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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I was just outside. It's 4. I want my firetrucking global warming. This is miserable.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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What's a matter with you sniveling wimps?
Don't you remember the winters of 1977 and 1978?
Don't you remember the winters of 1977 and 1978?
ziggy- Moderator
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I remember them. I was a teenager. I'm a helluva lot older now and my bones and joints ache.
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Stephanie wrote:I remember them. I was a teenager. I'm a helluva lot older now and my bones and joints ache.
Yeah, me too.
But today is still a breath of spring compared to January, 1978.
ziggy- Moderator
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I don't know, Ziggy. I was in NE then not here and I'd have to go back and look at the records from that time. I will tell you it is 1 degree Fahrenheit here and that is freaking cold.
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ziggy wrote:Stephanie wrote:I remember them. I was a teenager. I'm a helluva lot older now and my bones and joints ache.
Yeah, me too.
But today is still a breath of spring compared to January, 1978.
What, was it -60 in 1978? I was a kid and I remember the snow followed by rains followed by floods but I don't remember West Virginia turning into the north pole.
Zero is cold and miserable and it don't take a Rhodes Scholar to figure that out.
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Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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We'll get a break in a day or so.
It was colder in West Virginia then it is now then, and it stayed that way for weeks and weeks. Some counties went 4 weeks without having school in 1977-78.
It was colder in West Virginia then it is now then, and it stayed that way for weeks and weeks. Some counties went 4 weeks without having school in 1977-78.
ziggy- Moderator
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My memory was that '76 was the winter of Jay's Blizzard and the Ohio River froze so solid there was no traffic and we had snow on the ground for 10 weeks without interruption... No?
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I believe it was the infamous winter of '77.
I still have stuff stockpiled from that near blizzard...
I still have stuff stockpiled from that near blizzard...
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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But was that 76 - 77 or was it 77 - 78?
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To answer my own question:
http://www.wvculture.org/hiStory/timetrl/ttjan.html
January 20, 1978: Snowstorm cripples West Virginia
West Virginians have seen their fair share of snow over the years but not in the proportions that piled up on January 20, 1978. National Weather Service forecasters thought the snow that began early on a Thursday morning would change to freezing rain and sleet by late in the afternoon.
It didn't--the temperature never rose high enough for that. By the time the snow stopped, West Virginia was blanketed by its heaviest snowfall on record. It was a struggle just to get around. Up to two feet of snow had fallen in the Kanawha Valley and Preston County. Parkersburg and Martinsburg ended up with 16 inches, Huntington had 20, and Wheeling reported 18.
Governor Jay Rockefeller activated the National Guard to help with snow clearing efforts.
Rockefeller: It's a matter of equipment, really, more than personnel. We need as much equipment as we can get to clean off the roads--the primary roads and then the secondary roads. And then we've got to have availability for emergencies-- when people have to get to hospitals or need food or fuel or something of that sort. So that . . . vehicles is what we need and heavy equipment.
Adjutant General Robert Childers was in charge of West Virginia's Emergency Services office.
Childers: The mobility of the state has been slowed to a snail's pace. Your main arteries are snow-covered, being worked on to be unplugged. Most of the secondary roads are clogged. Then, you get into the so-called orphan roads. You've really got some very serious problems in those areas.
Roads were so hazardous that authorities advised motorists to use them only for emergencies. Schools and businesses were closed. In Hinton, the roof of a factory caved in under the weight of 15 inches of snow. It took the spring thaw to finally melt the last of the record snow.
http://www.wvculture.org/hiStory/timetrl/ttjan.html
January 20, 1978: Snowstorm cripples West Virginia
West Virginians have seen their fair share of snow over the years but not in the proportions that piled up on January 20, 1978. National Weather Service forecasters thought the snow that began early on a Thursday morning would change to freezing rain and sleet by late in the afternoon.
It didn't--the temperature never rose high enough for that. By the time the snow stopped, West Virginia was blanketed by its heaviest snowfall on record. It was a struggle just to get around. Up to two feet of snow had fallen in the Kanawha Valley and Preston County. Parkersburg and Martinsburg ended up with 16 inches, Huntington had 20, and Wheeling reported 18.
Governor Jay Rockefeller activated the National Guard to help with snow clearing efforts.
Rockefeller: It's a matter of equipment, really, more than personnel. We need as much equipment as we can get to clean off the roads--the primary roads and then the secondary roads. And then we've got to have availability for emergencies-- when people have to get to hospitals or need food or fuel or something of that sort. So that . . . vehicles is what we need and heavy equipment.
Adjutant General Robert Childers was in charge of West Virginia's Emergency Services office.
Childers: The mobility of the state has been slowed to a snail's pace. Your main arteries are snow-covered, being worked on to be unplugged. Most of the secondary roads are clogged. Then, you get into the so-called orphan roads. You've really got some very serious problems in those areas.
Roads were so hazardous that authorities advised motorists to use them only for emergencies. Schools and businesses were closed. In Hinton, the roof of a factory caved in under the weight of 15 inches of snow. It took the spring thaw to finally melt the last of the record snow.
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I believe Jay's Blizzard was the year before.
Jay's blizzard was a bust.
But I remember the winter of '78 too.
Jay's blizzard was a bust.
But I remember the winter of '78 too.
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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You may be right, sherman, but if you are, then the Division of Culture and History is wrong.
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Both winters (76-77 and 77-78 ) were terrifically cold and snowy. But 77-78 was worse than 76-77.
I remember it well because I was a salesman driving about 1200 miles a week, and my wife and 3 kids and I were living in a flimsy house trailer with two inch walls. We stayed warm- but burned a hell of a lot of propane that year.
I remember it well because I was a salesman driving about 1200 miles a week, and my wife and 3 kids and I were living in a flimsy house trailer with two inch walls. We stayed warm- but burned a hell of a lot of propane that year.
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I believe it was 77-78 ....... because it was rather mild in upstate NY that year with no lasting snow on the ground until up in February.
But it was my brother here in Braxton County that told me it was colder here that winter than a well driller's arse in the Klondike ... and that he made a ton of "cash money" thawing out water lines with his big ole Lincoln Welder.
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But it was my brother here in Braxton County that told me it was colder here that winter than a well driller's arse in the Klondike ... and that he made a ton of "cash money" thawing out water lines with his big ole Lincoln Welder.
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SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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I know 78 was the year the snow turned into rain turned into floods. I remember it well because it got up in our trailer and we all evacuated to a neighbors higher ground but my dad refused. I stayed up all night scared he would float away.
It was also the last full winter he was alive.
I don't recall how cold it was but I know it don't flood when it's that cold as everything freezes.
88-89 was pretty cold. That was the year my car froze up.
One thing we didn't have in the 70's or the 80's was global warming though.
So why's it so damn cold now?
It was also the last full winter he was alive.
I don't recall how cold it was but I know it don't flood when it's that cold as everything freezes.
88-89 was pretty cold. That was the year my car froze up.
One thing we didn't have in the 70's or the 80's was global warming though.
So why's it so damn cold now?
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