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Post by SamCogar Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:25 am

And the Creationist naysayers keep claiming it doesn’t happen.

A baby boy was born in California with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, KTVU-TV in San Francisco reported.

Kamani Hubbard, the baby boy born to a couple in Daly City, has a condition called "polydactyly" — a genetic trait that causes the appearance of extra fingers and toes, according to the station.

Bay Area doctors say it is not an uncommon condition, but Kamani's is an extremely rare case.

The baby appeared to be normal at birth, and no one noticed his extra digits at first. His father was the one who eventually saw the boy's 12 fingers and toes — and said the trait seems to run in the family.

Some family members have had six fingers, not completely developed,” Kris Hubbard, 34, told KTVU. “But not the toes.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,486262,00.html

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Post by bmd Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:10 am

Sam,

FauxNew may have just figured this out, but that polydactyly has a strong genetic component has been known for decades.
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Post by SamCogar Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:53 am

bmd wrote:Sam,

FauxNew may have just figured this out, but that polydactyly has a strong genetic component has been known for decades.

You know that ..... and I know that ....... and many Creationists know that because of friends and family that have experienced it .......but they still won't admit to it.

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Post by bmd Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:21 pm

SamCogar wrote:
bmd wrote:Sam,

FauxNew may have just figured this out, but that polydactyly has a strong genetic component has been known for decades.

You know that ..... and I know that ....... and many Creationists know that because of friends and family that have experienced it .......but they still won't admit to it.

True enough, at least for some.
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Post by SheikBen Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:03 am

I don't see how this neutral anomaly would make any kind of real difference. It's not as though this sixth finger is going to become a claw, is it?

At any rate, I have no quarrel that sometimes neutral mutations are kept. I would like to know how often they are kept.

I suppose the only way that a sixth finger would be functional disadvantage would be if it were a turnoff to the opposite sex.

Former Cubs pitcher Antonio Alfonseca has six fingers on his catching hand (he once gave a baseball to my son while warming up for the Rangers, so I like him and his six fingers).

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Post by SheikBen Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:04 am

Incidentally I have yet to meet the creationist who does not believe in micro-evolution.

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Post by SamCogar Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:33 pm

SheikBen wrote:Incidentally I have yet to meet the creationist who does not believe in micro-evolution.

But hardly a one believes in macro-evolution, ...... right.

They don't believe one type of animal can evolve into a different type of animal, ... right.

Well taudy da.

How can anyone deny the actuality of macro-evolution ……. on a small scale, ….. when they can actually observe it happening with their very own eyes …….. by observing an ugly caterpillar spin a cocoon around itself …….. and then go through a complete transformation (metamorphosis) from one animal form to another ……… evolving into a beautiful butterfly with none of its new features resembling its former self?

Go ahead, …….. tell me, …… tell me your God does that “quick change” act when it is inside of its cocoon.

GEEEZE, ya'll creationists wouldn't believe or admit that was possible except for the fact that it would be silly for any of you to deny it.

On second thought, ....... that wouldn't bother you in the least to be acting silly about such matters.

lol! lol!


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Post by SheikBen Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:34 pm

Sam,

Well, if such change happens "so fast," or "relatively fast" as the punc eek crowd would have you believe, doesn't that put the entire question of time "off the table?" That is, if change can happen so very fast, I have to wonder if our estimates are out of whack. I would also wonder if the decay rates that we observe today have always been the same. I am told by those wiser than I that the speed of light itself may well not be constant throughout time.

Now natural and artificial selection, and the "microevolutionary considerations," are more than adequately well known to those darned creationists that you seem to believe have sex with their cousins and cannot count past 15. I'l have you know that I can count to at least 20.

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Post by SamCogar Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:12 pm

Mike, you did not address the main point of my post, to wit:

"and then go through a complete transformation (metamorphosis) from one animal form to another "

Now, try again, ..... and I do not mean ....... "to again attempt to change the subject".


lol! lol! lol! lol!

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