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Aaron I did not say, nor do I believe, the feds should do the evacuation.

That would be even more of a fiasco than providing post event relief.

I just think you guys have a simplistic, pollyann attitude how hard it is to herd people around.

Heck it takes several people just to keep people moving at an accident scene.

ohio county wrote:Heat of the battle? New Orleans has been a tropical city below sea level for at least two hundred years.

No argument from me that pre-disaster planning was inadequate.

Whose fault that is I dont know.

Some say just abandon the city, some say build bigger dikes/levees, some say let the entire Delta revert to swampland, etc.

You guys with more knowledge and experience will need to work that out.

Sherm,

Is it "pollyann" to expect public officials to have a plan to evacuate nursing home residents in the event of a catagory 3 or above hurricane in a city below sea level surrounded by bodies of water?

Is it "pollyann" to expect public officials to call for evacuation in a timely fashion in such a city after receiving multiple warnings?

Is it "pollyann" for residents of a city to expect assistance from their state during such a crisis?

Is it "pollyann" for residents to be surprised they are held captive by public officials in squalor without adequate food, medical supplies or security for days?

Don't call me Stephanie any longer. Call me Pollyanna, guys.

Pollyanna, was Boosh in office in 1776?

Well Steph I have been around long enough to know that in an emergency situation someone who wasn't there can always do it better.

I could have probably done it better myself sometimes if I hadn't been there.

The best laid plans of mice and men....

I am more willing to give the people who were there as the emergency was unfolding a pass than I am the folks who were sent to bring relief afterwards in this case.

To follow up on your criticisms, I dont know what kind of plans (if any)were in place.

But take your nursing home critique as an example.

Do you evacuate nursing homes every time a hurricane hits?

Or every time one might hit?

Should it be up to the mayor?

Or the nursing home manager?

In this case, it appeared they were right not to drag these fragile folks around when the storm passed and few problems encountered.

Then hours later the levees failed and they had made the wrong decision.

On the outside looking in, I would not put a nursing home below sea level.

Did the city or state have authority to shut nursing homes down if they were too low elevation.?

Yeah, he was, Jimmy. Kind of like in the Rolling Stones song.

I'm quite sure the city licenses these things, Sherm.

I'm also quite certain when a storm of that magniguted is barreling in toward a major metropolitan area that rests below sea level surrounded by major bodies of water, a mayor has the authority to call for the evacuation or nursing homes and, if the mayor doesn't, the governor sure does.

Well maybe they do. I dont claim to know.

Nor do I assume.

But does the Governor (if she has authority) evacuate nursing homes for every hurricane?

Or every time one is predicted?

Bush sucked. He was a disaster for this nation, and particularly for my party.

Oh my.

Our subliminal, base partisan priority will almost always show itself sooner or later.

I would say that Bush was a disaster for the Republican Party, and more particularly for the nation.

I'm not sitting here claiming to be nonpartisan. I'm a conservative. I'm a Republican, have been registered Republican for over 20 years...I even held elected office as a Republican.

He was a disaster for this nation, particularly for my party. How long do you think it will take my party to win any trust from Americans again? The nation can recover. Obama could keep his promise and withdraw troops from Iraq. He won't, but he could. He, along with the Democratically controlled Congress, could dismantle the Department of Homeland Security, revoke the Patriot Act, and restore some of the liberties Bush & Co. stripped away in a matter of a few weeks.

The only way my party will regain any of the faith squandered during the Bush years is for Obama to do far greater damage. I told Terry in another thread I hope Obama fails at a lot of things too, just like Rush Limbaugh. However, I certainly don't hope for him to inflict as much harm upon our nation and her people as George W. Bush did.

So I figure it is going to take more than an election cycle or two.