Not Enough Monkeys in the Universe

Not Enough Monkeys in the Universe
By Bruce Malone

The DNA molecule stores specific information by lining up four chemical compounds in a very specific order similar to the way Morse Code lines up three symbols (a dot, a dash, and a space) to convey a unique message. The order in which these four chemicals are arranged not only determines the distinguishing characteristics of an animal, but also if the organism will grow into a man or a marigold. Biochemists around the world are involved in a major undertaking to decode the language written on the human DNA molecule. But where did this fantastic molecule come from?
Scientists have had great success splicing new sections of DNA onto the DNA molecule, duplicating sections of DNA, producing the building blocks of DNA from basic chemicals, and unraveling the DNA molecular code. All too often, it is inferred that because we can do these things, we know how the molecule originated. However, this is a total distortion of reality.

Science has not even come close to explaining how the DNA molecule could have originated without intelligent guidance (i.e. creation). Here are just a few of the problems naturalistic scientists need to solve before making any sweeping statements concerning life’s origin:

1. When the building blocks of DNA are mixed together, they do react and link up...but not in the spiral
shape of the DNA molecule. How did the shape originally occur when it doesn’t happen now?
2. Great amounts of energy would be required to produce a molecule as complicated and as large as even
the simplest segment of DNA. Yet the molecule is so energy sensitive that it easily comes apart.
Many mechanisms are in place within a cell to protect the DNA molecule from degeneration. How
could DNA have survived before all the protective mechanisms existed?
3. DNA is not a random, meaningless molecule. It carries specific and useful information needed for
the formation and development of an organism. Where did this coded information come from?
4. Specific proteins function to construct copies of the DNA, but DNA is required to create the
needed proteins. How could one exist without the other being there first?

There are many other major problems which have no answer aside from the acknowledgment of an intelligent designer. Yet, chance processes continue to be the only possibilities taught. It has been said that given enough time, anything can happen (such as a monkey typing the entire contents of the Encyclopedia Britannica). Rather than just accept such statements, let’s use the science of probability to ask, “How many monkeys (or how much time) would it take to randomly type just the title ‘Encyclopedia Britannica’?”

The odds of a monkey typing the ‘e’ of the title in the first place is 1 in 39 (the number of keys on a typical keyboard). The odds of getting an ‘e’ followed by an ‘n’ is (1/39 x 1/39). The odds of a monkey getting just the title ‘Encyclopedia Britannica’ correct (one time) is 1/1036. If these monkeys are extremely proficient and persistent typists and make one attempt every second for the entire assumed age of the universe (15 billion years) it would still require 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 monkeys. In other words, enough monkeys to cover every square foot of the Earth’s surface, stacked over one mile deep, making one attempt every second for 15 billion years MIGHT type the title right...once. But even if one monkey did type the title right once, how would we ever recognize it among billions of trillions of wrong ones?

The useful information coded into the simplest DNA molecule is unimaginably more complicated that the simple title ‘Encyclopedia Britannica’. The odds of the useful code found on the DNA molecule forming by chance processes is astronomically smaller. In actuality, it is an absolute impossibility. Science clearly reveals that life can not form by evolutionary processes. Why aren’t we teaching our children these facts of science?

Bruce Malone looking at a picture of a double helix DNA molecule and trying to figure it out is akin to a South American Indian who had never been out of his jungle setting looking at a picture of the World Trade Center towers and trying to figure them out.

Malone should be looking at something a little more simpler like maybe the hemoglobin in his blood and figure out how it absorbs and transports oxygen from his lungs to cells in his body and there releasing it ….. and then absorbing and transporting the carbon dioxide from the cells back to his lungs and there releasing it.

And if that is still too complex for his understanding maybe he should start with watching paint dry and try figuring that chemical reaction out.

And Armony, maybe you should be looking over his shoulder and asking questions.

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SamCogar wrote:Bruce Malone looking at a picture of a double helix DNA molecule and trying to figure it out is akin to a South American Indian who had never been out of his jungle setting looking at a picture of the World Trade Center towers and trying to figure them out.

Malone should be looking at something a little more simpler like maybe the hemoglobin in his blood and figure out how it absorbs and transports oxygen from his lungs to cells in his body and there releasing it ….. and then absorbing and transporting the carbon dioxide from the cells back to his lungs and there releasing it.

And if that is still too complex for his understanding maybe he should start with watching paint dry and try figuring that chemical reaction out.

And Armony, maybe you should be looking over his shoulder and asking questions.

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Still mastering the AD HOMINEM attack, Sam?

1. When the building blocks of DNA are mixed together, they do react and link up...but not in the spiral
shape of the DNA molecule. How did the shape originally occur when it doesn’t happen now?

This isn't a whole statement. In the presence of certain chemicals, the molecule can spiral and unspiral. A certain molecule length is also required.

In some animals and organelles, DNA (or RNA) stays unspiralled. Malone (and you, apparently) assume its function is reliant upon shape. Malone needs to stick with the argument.

2. Great amounts of energy would be required to produce a molecule as complicated and as large as even
the simplest segment of DNA. Yet the molecule is so energy sensitive that it easily comes apart.
Many mechanisms are in place within a cell to protect the DNA molecule from degeneration. How
could DNA have survived before all the protective mechanisms existed?

Not all energy is in the form of heat, nor must it all be injected into whatever system you refer at one time.

Malone's argument makes unwarranted assumptions within itself.

3. DNA is not a random, meaningless molecule. It carries specific and useful information needed for
the formation and development of an organism. Where did this coded information come from?

Where does the structure of a snowflake or a graph of a fractal come from?

The laws of physics and/or math.

DNA likely started as combinations of organic molecules and/or active proteins that eventually became near-alive "organisms" like prions. from there, selection can really begin. Organic molecules abound in the universe, particularly on objects like comets.

4. Specific proteins function to construct copies of the DNA, but DNA is required to create the
needed proteins. How could one exist without the other being there first?

See response #3.

If Malone was a lawyer, he'd be accused of leading the witness.

He certainly isn't much of a scientist.

Armon Ayers wrote: Still mastering the AD HOMINEM attack, Sam?

GEEEZE, Armony, you are beginning to mimic TRC.

Did my "country boy reasoning" get your goat by the short-hairs or what?



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Did my "country boy reasoning" get your goat by the short-hairs or what?

I didn't see any real "reasoning", "country boy" or other, just a slightly valid analogy.

It is better than your usual meaningless attacks, though.