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Cash-strapped Cuba says toilet paper running short

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Post by Keli Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:46 pm

Reuters:
"Cash-strapped Cuba says toilet paper running short.

What? No copies of the Communist Manifesto left? Dreams From My Father? The Obama Health Care Plan?
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Post by SheikBen Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:23 pm

The Obama Health Care plan is already full of crap, and therefore cannot be used for toilet paper.

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Post by Keli Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:35 pm

SheikBen wrote:The Obama Health Care plan is already full of crap, and therefore cannot be used for toilet paper.

Si.
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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:31 pm

Keli wrote:Reuters:
"Cash-strapped Cuba says toilet paper running short.

What? No copies of the Communist Manifesto left? Dreams From My Father? The Obama Health Care Plan?

I think that we should bailout Cuber.
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Post by ziggy Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:51 pm

Toilet paper shortage or not, the average Cuban lives longer than the average American. But
an American's healthcare costs more than 10 times what the Cuban's costs, according to the World Health Organization.

There seems to be little relationship between the cost of our healthcare and how long we'll live.
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Post by Aaron Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:32 pm

I wonder who has a better quality of life and more freedoms.
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Post by Keli Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:10 am

Aaron wrote:I wonder who has a better quality of life and more freedoms.

Now? The Cubans.
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Post by SheikBen Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:28 am

Ziggy,

If life is so great in Cuba, why do people continue to risk their lives to get out?

Why isn't there an illegal immigrant controversy in Cuba?

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Post by SamCogar Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:51 am

Keli wrote:
Aaron wrote:I wonder who has a better quality of life and more freedoms.

Now? The Cubans.

UH, .... YES and NO.

From 1986 to 1993, Santiago de las Vegas epitomized the country's much criticized quarantine that kept people with HIV apart from the general public. Forced quarantine ended in 1993, but the government retains an aggressive public health approach to controlling HIV. The sanatorium model reflects an emphasis on preventive care over acute care and on early diagnosis and quick treatment of infectious diseases like tuberculosis. Cuban officials take pride in the sanatoriums, crediting them with keeping HIV prevalence under 0.1% of adults between 15 and 49 years old. That is one of the lowest incidences in the world and ten to 60 fold below that of Cuba's Caribbean neighbors. By official count, Cuba has about 3,200 cases of HIV, almost entirely in gay and bisexual men.

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Post by Aaron Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:34 am

I don't know that having your freedoms taken away to prevent disease constitutes a better quality of life although it does explain why they have a longer life expectancy.

I wonder if Michael Moore took any of this into consideration when he touted their health care system.
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Post by ziggy Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:49 pm

SheikBen wrote:Ziggy,

If life is so great in Cuba, why do people continue to risk their lives to get out?

Why isn't there an illegal immigrant controversy in Cuba?

I did not say that life was great in Cuba. I said that people pay less for health care, but live longer in Cuba than in the U.S.

What can we learn from that?
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Post by ziggy Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:51 pm

I don't know that having your freedoms taken away to prevent disease constitutes a better quality of life although it does explain why they have a longer life expectancy.

I wonder if Michael Moore took any of this into consideration when he touted their health care system.

How does taking away freedoms prevent disease?
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Post by Stephanie Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:16 pm

You're joking, right?
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Post by Keli Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:28 pm

ziggy wrote:
SheikBen wrote:Ziggy,

If life is so great in Cuba, why do people continue to risk their lives to get out?

Why isn't there an illegal immigrant controversy in Cuba?

I did not say that life was great in Cuba. I said that people pay less for health care, but live longer in Cuba than in the U.S.

What can we learn from that?

I don't think people live longer in Communist countries--it just seems like it.
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Post by Aaron Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:32 pm

ziggy wrote:
I don't know that having your freedoms taken away to prevent disease constitutes a better quality of life although it does explain why they have a longer life expectancy.

I wonder if Michael Moore took any of this into consideration when he touted their health care system.

How does taking away freedoms prevent disease?

...the country's much criticized quarantine that kept people with HIV apart from the general public.

I don't believe for a second that you're that stupid.
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Post by SamCogar Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:34 pm

ziggy wrote: How does taking away freedoms prevent disease?

We will let you know just as soon as we get an answer from Typhoid Mary.

Anyone know where she is at?

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