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Post by Stephanie Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:32 pm

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst123007.htm

Last week I highlighted the irony of sending nearly $1 billion overseas in military earmarks as we close down bases here at home to save money. Our government's flawed foreign policy troubles me this week especially.

Benazir Bhutto's assasination was a great tragedy. Pakistan is now more than ever teetering on chaos. And all the money we have sent Musharraf has inadvertently drawn a target on our backs.

Musharraf, unfortunately, appears to have learned how to work our system, much in the way a career welfare recipient has learned to do the same. The perpetual welfare recipient promises to look for a job. Musharraf has promised to look for Bin Laden. Both are terrible investments of American taxpayer dollars, however with Musharraf, its been an astonishing $10 billion loss over the last few years. But it is even worse than that. With his recent actions declaring martial law, and dismissing the justices of the supreme court, he is to the rest of the world, and to Pakistanis, a wildly unpopular, power hungry, brutal military dictator. The perception by most is that we are propping him up while simultaneously urging Ms. Bhutto back into Pakistan as a lamb to the slaughter.

The trouble is the average Pakistani will have little doubt regarding Bhutto's death, regardless if it was orchestrated by Musharraf or not. At this point It is almost irrelevant who was responsible or how she died. The perception is what will fuel the anger. My great fear is their anger towards Musharraf's military regime will be targetted towards his enablers - the United States.

This is the problem with our government involvement in the internal affairs of other nations. Our friend one day is our enemy the next. And all our friends' enemies become our enemies. How many times have we armed BOTH sides of a conflict because of this? There is little for us to gain from this policy, and simultaneously a lot of trouble we get ourselves into. It is not a rational or intelligent way to interact with the world.

The administration has behaved as if there are only two choices in foreign policy - sending money or sending bombs. Our founding fathers knew a better way - to talk with our neighbors, do honest business with them, cultivate friendship, allow travel and open communication. We should neither initiate violence, nor take sides in conflicts that are none of our business. The American taxpayers are working hard enough to support their families here at home. If an American wants to send money overseas for a conflict or cause, let them, but do not slap Americans in the face by forcefully sending their children's college money abroad to subsidize despotic foreign governments. Our children should be going off to college, not going off to more senseless foreign wars.

I was deeply saddened to hear of Benazir Bhutto's death. My hope is that we can change our foreign policy moving forward and truly make strides this year toward peace on earth and goodwill toward men.
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Post by SheikBen Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:51 pm

That man's sharp, Steph. No wonder the other Republicans are afraid of him. I'd love to watch him tear open a couple of Dems.

What is called isolationism (whether correctly or not) used to be a Republican virtue. It goes all the way back to Washington (as your thread line gives honor to--was it in his farwell adress that Washington warned against both the excesses of faction and excessive entanglements?). It was the Republican presence in the Senate that did in the Treaty of Versailles, and they were right to block it then, just as I wish they had the balls to get us out of the UN right now.

I have two problems with the war (while distancing myself greatly from the left on the matter). The threat of Saddam was greatly overexaggerated, I reckon by a President who believed what he wanted to rather than thought through his options. Second, we have decided to send troops into harms way without giving them the benefit of the doubt in battle. If we are going to fight a war, we darn well better do it right and put our soldier's interests above everything else.

The problem is that the current opposition has no trouble at all getting us into foreign entanglements when they care for them. If we are going to prevent an Iraq redux, we have to have the kind of overall view that Ron Paul suggests. Without it, we will forever have two sides bickering over when to get involved in foreign affairs, without either side ever asking if we should be involved in the first place.

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Post by Stephanie Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:59 pm

You may be interested in this "rush transcript". If a final product has been posted, my apologies, I couldn't find it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318741,00.html

This is a rush transcript from "Your World with Neil Cavuto," December 27, 2007. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

TERRY KEENAN, "YOUR WORLD" GUEST HOST: Well, cut off all aid to Pakistan, that's what my next guest says that we should do.

Joining me now is presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Congressman, welcome. Very nice to have you with us.

You know, you call this a grave policy failure, and you -- you have been talking about our policy towards Pakistan for — for a long time, been pretty prescient on it.

Explain.

REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, I think we should treat Pakistan a long time ago like we should treat all countries. We should mind our own business and stay out of supporting military dictators.

And that's what Musharraf is. He overthrew an elected government, and we reward him by supporting him. He becomes our puppet. We have sent him about $10 billion over the last eight years. And the candidate that represents democracy, Bhutto, comes in, and she gets killed

And we're right in the middle of this. And we just sort of stir the pot. And now I'm scared to death that we're going to be marching in there and have another war. We have one in Iraq. We threaten Iran. We're in Afghanistan.

We can't afford to go in and now go into nation-building in Pakistan. I think it's a consequence of us getting involved too many places. And we can't afford it any longer. It's not in our own interest to do this.

KEENAN: It — it begs — it begs the question, though, now, what do we do? You see these scenes, these awful, violent street scenes. What do we do now?

PAUL: Well, I mean, they have to deal with it. It's their country. It's not our country. They have to deal with it. It's their political situation. We probably did way too much already. So, the sooner we do less, the better it is for them and for us.

But I don't think this is a justification to jeopardize American troops or — or tax the American people. It's a real mess. And I think that they have to sort it out. Countries should have the right of self-determination. When they have problems, they work it out. When they have violence, it's an utter tragedy.

But for us to be supporting military dictators, I think, is tragic. And now there's a call to drop our support for Musharraf, on-again, off-again. We used to support Usama bin Laden. Then we quit. Then we supported Saddam Hussein. Then we quit.

And we need to quit this on-again, off-again stuff. And, besides, we just don't have the money anymore to continue to do this. And it does not serve our interests.

KEENAN: Yet — yet, sometimes, you have to be support the better of two evils. Hasn't that been our policy to try to maintain some stability in this country with 60 nuclear warheads?

PAUL: I think that's the problem, always trying to support the lesser of two evils. And we don't have the jurisdiction to do it.

And I'm not sure you can sort out which one is the most evil or the least evil. I mean, here we are — right now, we have supported Turkey all these years, and Turkey now is using our weapons and our money to bomb north Iraq.

This has to quit. I mean, how long can we continue to do this? It just doesn't serve our interests at all.

KEENAN: As — as on most issues, you're the only one really speaking this line on the campaign trail.

How big an issue do you think the situation in Pakistan is going to be, not just, you know, next week in the caucuses, but ongoing in the campaign?

PAUL: Well, I think it's going to be big, but, hopefully, I can put it in context of foreign policy, rather than becoming a management situation.

A lot of people want to talk about Iraq because it's mismanaged, or, "I can manage it differently," rather than talking about strategic policy and what the policy of the United States ought to be. That's what we should be talking about, not just tinkering with foreign policy and tinkering with a war. We need to think more strategically.

KEENAN: You know, Congress did put — tab some conditions to the aid, the latest aid that we were going to send to Pakistan. Did you support that measure?

PAUL: To support? I wouldn't support aid to them, no.

KEENAN: Any aid whatsoever?

PAUL: Oh, no, because this is the whole thing, is, you know, you offer them the aid. You want them to do something. If they don't do it, then we threaten to take their aid away from it. Then, if they don't obey us, we start bombing them.

I just want to become much more neutral, talk to people and reason with people, rather than supporting certain dictators that elicit this — this kind of turmoil in these countries.

I mean, one of the — our support for Saudi Arabia over all these years is a thorn in the side of many of the Al Qaeda. That's the motivation.

KEENAN: Right.

PAUL: And the fact that we support this military dictator in Pakistan is an incentive for the Al Qaeda to organize.

KEENAN: All right, provocative as always. And we appreciate your insights on this tragic day.

Thanks for joining us, presidential candidate Ron — Ron Paul.
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