Where is TerryRC, Mr. Science, on Climategate?

Rigging a Climate 'Consensus'

The response from the defenders of Mr. Mann and his circle has been that even if they did disparage doubters and exclude contrary points of view, theirs is still the best climate science. The proof for this is circular. It's the best, we're told, because it's the most-published and most-cited—in that same peer-reviewed literature. The public has every reason to ask why they felt the need to rig the game if their science is as indisputable as they claim.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703499404574559630382048494.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

TerryRC wrote:Don't expect me to think you wise for burying your heads in the sand.

TerryRC wrote:Sand is better than where you have buried your head.

Such a snappy comeback, preacher. So filled with fact and wisdom.

Attack the evidence, not the people.

The evidence that we are warming up is overwhelming. We can see it in many things, from insects to new patterns for tropical diseases.

GW crusaders trying to make the evidence more convincing do us all harm. The evidence doesn't need inflation - it is convincing enough, at least to those of us not trying to "wish" it away.

TerryRC wrote:Don't expect me to think you wise for burying your heads in the sand.

Armon Ayers wrote:Sand is better than where you have buried your head.

TerryRC wrote:Attack the evidence, not the people.

Climate Change Scientists Admit Dumping Data

Scientists at the University of East Anglia have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.

The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit CRU was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.

In a statement on its website, the CRU said: "We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenized) data."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577746,00.html?test=latestnews

TerryRC wrote:poor widdle TRC, ..... people always launching personal attacks against his superior intellect for no reason a tall.

Sam "I-hope-we-don't-scare-you-away-until-I-find-you-have-the-slightest-liberal-tendency-then-I'm-gonna-do-nothing-but-attack-your-character-and-dismiss-your-arguments-out-of-hand" Cogar?

Seriously?

Just look at the physical evidence to look at warming trends. Leave temperature measurements out of it.

Did any of you address a single one of these observations:

Places in Africa and India are starting (among others) to feel the pinch already in terms of drought.

Bark beetles are moving north as temperatures rise, destroying boreal forests.

Glaciers are receding at unprecedented rates [except, perhaps, in the Himalayas - have to relook at that data].

There is more, far more. I really don't care. I won't live to see it become too extreme.