Obama and the Arizona law...
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Obama and the Arizona law...
Want to know the real reason why Obama doesn't like the Arizona law? Think about it...
Ich bin Ala-awkbarph- Number of posts : 2310
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The website Media Matters is highlighting a comment from talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh in which he explains he can understand President Barack Obama's sensitivity to a state requirement for documentation of citizenship.
"Maybe he's afraid somebody's going to ask him for his," stated Limbaugh on his program Wednesday.
"Maybe he's afraid somebody's going to ask him for his," stated Limbaugh on his program Wednesday.
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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The website Media Matters is highlighting a comment from talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh in which he explains he can understand President Barack Obama's sensitivity to a state requirement for documentation of citizenship.
"Maybe he's afraid somebody's going to ask him for his," stated Limbaugh on his program Wednesday.
Rushbo. Always classy.
"Maybe he's afraid somebody's going to ask him for his," stated Limbaugh on his program Wednesday.
Rushbo. Always classy.
TerryRC- Number of posts : 2762
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Also, you short-sighted folks that support this remember, Arizona just passed a law making it an arrestable offense to not have on your person documentation proving you are not an illegal immigrant, even if you are a natural-born citizen.
That is EXACTLY like, "papers, please".
There is at least one AZ sheriff that has his ethics in the right place. I'm sure he will be fired:
Dupnik had harsh words for anyone who thinks SB 1070 will not lead to racial profiling. "If I tell my people to go out and look for A, B, and C, they're going to do it. They'll find some flimsy excuse like a tail light that's not working as a basis for a stop, which is a bunch of baloney."
That is EXACTLY like, "papers, please".
There is at least one AZ sheriff that has his ethics in the right place. I'm sure he will be fired:
Dupnik had harsh words for anyone who thinks SB 1070 will not lead to racial profiling. "If I tell my people to go out and look for A, B, and C, they're going to do it. They'll find some flimsy excuse like a tail light that's not working as a basis for a stop, which is a bunch of baloney."
TerryRC- Number of posts : 2762
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TerryRC wrote:Also, you short-sighted folks that support this remember, Arizona just passed a law making it an arrestable offense to not have on your person documentation proving you are not an illegal immigrant, even if you are a natural-born citizen.
That is EXACTLY like, "papers, please".
There is at least one AZ sheriff that has his ethics in the right place. I'm sure he will be fired:
Dupnik had harsh words for anyone who thinks SB 1070 will not lead to racial profiling. "If I tell my people to go out and look for A, B, and C, they're going to do it. They'll find some flimsy excuse like a tail light that's not working as a basis for a stop, which is a bunch of baloney."
Should someone driving a car be able to produce a driver's license? Should American citizens be required by Mexico to have a passport to enter Mexico? Why?
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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Should someone driving a car be able to produce a driver's license? Should American citizens be required by Mexico to have a passport to enter Mexico? Why?
Do you carry your proof of citizenship when you walk to the store?
Do you carry your proof of citizenship when you walk to the store?
TerryRC- Number of posts : 2762
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TerryRC wrote:Should someone driving a car be able to produce a driver's license? Should American citizens be required by Mexico to have a passport to enter Mexico? Why?
Do you carry your proof of citizenship when you walk to the store?
Yes. I have a picture I.D., driver's license, Social Security Card in my wallet. However, even if I didn't have my wallet with me, I COULD produce those legitimate ID's. Perhaps the police could give me an opportunity to show my IDs to them within 24 hours? Could an an illegal do the same?
You didn't answer the question about Mexico requiring a passport to enter Mexico.
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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Keli wrote:TerryRC wrote:Should someone driving a car be able to produce a driver's license? Should American citizens be required by Mexico to have a passport to enter Mexico? Why?
Do you carry your proof of citizenship when you walk to the store?
Yes. I have a picture I.D., driver's license, Social Security Card in my wallet.
We can be sure that Obama very likely has all those. Plus, he produces a birth certificate isued by the state of Hawaii, and you still spread the propaganda that he is not a natural born American citizen. If a picture I.D., driver's license, and Social Security Card in a wallet is good enough for Keli, why is it not good enough for Obama?
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ziggy wrote:Keli wrote:TerryRC wrote:Should someone driving a car be able to produce a driver's license? Should American citizens be required by Mexico to have a passport to enter Mexico? Why?
Do you carry your proof of citizenship when you walk to the store?
Yes. I have a picture I.D., driver's license, Social Security Card in my wallet.
We can be sure that Obama very likely has all those. Plus, he produces a birth certificate isued by the state of Hawaii, and you still spread the propaganda that he is not a natural born American citizen. If a picture I.D., driver's license, and Social Security Card in a wallet is good enough for Keli, why is it not good enough for Obama?
He has never produced a birth certificate.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
ziggy- Moderator
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ziggy wrote: We can be sure that Obama very likely has all those. Plus, he produces a birth certificate isued by the state of Hawaii, and you still spread the propaganda that he is not a natural born American citizen.
Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration?
As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration:
Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth, except that an application will not be accepted for a deceased person.
How to Apply for Late Registration
For information and assistance on applying for late registration of birth, death, marriage, or divorce:
Send a written letter of inquiry to:
State Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Registration/Vital Statistics Section
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, HI 96801
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/latereg.html
My wife's father had to apply and get his Birth Certificate in 1957.
Her older sister had to apply for her's when she wanted to get married.
Thus, they both were then able to produce a birth certificate isued by the state of West Virginia.
SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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ziggy wrote:We can be sure that Obama very likely has all those. Plus, he produces a birth certificate isued by the state of Hawaii, and you still spread the propaganda that he is not a natural born American citizen. If a picture I.D., driver's license, and Social Security Card in a wallet is good enough for Keli, why is it not good enough for Obama?
Eligibility
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications one must meet to be eligible to the office of president. A president must:
be a natural born citizen of the United States;
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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SamCogar wrote:ziggy wrote: We can be sure that Obama very likely has all those. Plus, he produces a birth certificate isued by the state of Hawaii, and you still spread the propaganda that he is not a natural born American citizen.Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration?
As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration:
Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth, except that an application will not be accepted for a deceased person.
How to Apply for Late Registration
For information and assistance on applying for late registration of birth, death, marriage, or divorce:
Send a written letter of inquiry to:
State Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Registration/Vital Statistics Section
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, HI 96801
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/latereg.html
My wife's father had to apply and get his Birth Certificate in 1957.
Her older sister had to apply for her's when she wanted to get married.
Thus, they both were then able to produce a birth certificate isued by the state of West Virginia.
Duhh, yeah. And so can probably a million or more other West Virginians. So what's your point?
ziggy- Moderator
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ziggy wrote:
Duhh, yeah. And so can probably a million or more other West Virginians. So what's your point?
So you could estimate how many non-native born residents of the US that are over the age of five (5) that can show you their Birth Certificate that was issued to them self, their parent or a guardian by one of the following States: Arizona, Hawaii, New Mexico or California.
SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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Yes. I have a picture I.D., driver's license, Social Security Card in my wallet.
News flash, preacher. NONE of those are proof of citizenship in this state.
News flash, preacher. NONE of those are proof of citizenship in this state.
TerryRC- Number of posts : 2762
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TerryRC,
Do you really read the Arizona law as the police stopping you on your way to get ice cream? They are going to check the legal status of those stopped for other reasons by law enforcement. How can that possibly be a bad idea?
Do you really read the Arizona law as the police stopping you on your way to get ice cream? They are going to check the legal status of those stopped for other reasons by law enforcement. How can that possibly be a bad idea?
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TerryRC wrote:Yes. I have a picture I.D., driver's license, Social Security Card in my wallet.
News flash, preacher. NONE of those are proof of citizenship in this state.
Not true. On every I-9 you fill out, states as follows.
I attest, under penalty of perjury, that I am (check one of the following):
A citizen or national of the United States
A Lawful Permanent Resident (Alien # A An alien authorized to work until / / (Alien # or Admission #)
Employee's Signature Date (month/day/year)
You are then required to PROVE your statement, by providing one document for list A only or by combining one document from list A COMBINED with one document from list C.
The first item list B is a drivers license, the first item on list B is a social security card. That establishes citizenship and under the full faith and credit clause, if you're a citizen of one state, every other state has to honor, including West Virginia.
You may need additional documents to prove residency in West Virginia, but the documents Preacher man listed do in fact prove citizenship.
And I know how much you hate being wrong.
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TerryRC,
That is for hiring purposes, I believe per Simpson-Mazzoli Act. You know darn well that folks with drivers licenses who are citizens are quite unlikely to be "deported," which would cause all kinds of negative press.
Of course, the left gets to condemn this law through what "might" happen and has not yet, so they get traction out of the matter whether the mistakes happen or not.
That is for hiring purposes, I believe per Simpson-Mazzoli Act. You know darn well that folks with drivers licenses who are citizens are quite unlikely to be "deported," which would cause all kinds of negative press.
Of course, the left gets to condemn this law through what "might" happen and has not yet, so they get traction out of the matter whether the mistakes happen or not.
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