Palin

'I can see November from my house'...

Well, after abandoning one post that she was elected to [to make $$$$$$], do you think she would see it through?

If the GOP gives her the nod, Obama will win reelection.

Is that what you really want?

Since we are on the subject...

Palin accuses Obama of being in bed with big oil

Anyone see a sort of paradox between that and the chant of "DRILL, BABY, DRILL".

TerryRC,

Just because you want to increase supply (and therefore lower costs) does not mean that you are in "bed with big oil." Of course, Palin is using this as a political opportunity, which may not be altogether fair.

I think Obama's reaction to this and most every other crisis proves his ineptitude as a leader. He is an excellent propagandist, but I think he's over his head here. I think Palin probably would not be the best President, either, but I do not think the GOP will nominate her. If they are looking for the next "Ronaldus Maximus," they will need to look elsewhere (Rush's term).

However, I would vote for Palin over Obama in a second. The man shows time and again that he has no moral backbone, not even an immoral backbone.

Just because you want to increase supply (and therefore lower costs) does not mean that you are in "bed with big oil."

Or have a husband that worked in the oilfields for years, of course...

I figured you would ignore the cognitive dissonance between her two statements. First Obama is stifling big oil, now he is in bed with them.

Really? Really?

However, I would vote for Palin over Obama in a second. The man shows time and again that he has no moral backbone, not even an immoral backbone.

I think you are insane to believe that Palin is more competent or would be a better leader than the one we have (which agreed, may not be saying much), not to mention she appears to lie in every word and deed.

TerryRC wrote:I think you are insane to believe that Palin is more competent or would be a better leader than the one we have (which agreed, may not be saying much), not to mention she appears to lie in every word and deed.

Palin only sounds like an inept leader whereas Obama has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt so to me, the insanity would be to re-elect such a horrendous leader.

Palin only sounds like an inept leader whereas Obama has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt so to me, the insanity would be to re-elect such a horrendous leader.

You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

TerryRC,

Is everyone who works for WalMart "in bed with Walmart" the same way as the CEO is?

TerryRC wrote:Palin only sounds like an inept leader whereas Obama has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt so to me, the insanity would be to re-elect such a horrendous leader.

You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

Show me how I'm incorrect.

Is everyone who works for WalMart "in bed with Walmart" the same way as the CEO is?

Is Obama the CEO of Big Oil? Your analogy is absurd.

Palin has been friendly to Big Oil as Gov. of Alaska far more than Obama has as President.

Regardless, you are not addressing the disconnect: First Obama is stifling big oil, now he is in bed with them. You don't have to agree with Obama to point out that she is contradicting herself, your denials aside.

If he were to make it mandatory for every household in the US to have a gun, people like Palin would accuse him of "being in bed with the NRA".

She already quit one post. That, in itself, does it for me.

TerryRC wrote:She already quit one post. That, in itself, does it for me.

I assume that was directed at me. While that may justify your opinion in your mind (I know why you hate her) but it in no way makes my opinion incorrect.

So how is my opinion incorrect?

You said Palin only "sounds" like an inept leader.

You opinion is incorrect because her quitting (not to mention multiple other incidents) SHOWS her to be an inept leader.

She is a hypocrite, not that she is that different form other politicians in that regard, but an ignorant one at that.

Regardless, I hope the GOP does put her up. They have pandered to this religious right wing extremist type, let them pay the price.

TerryRC wrote:You said Palin only "sounds" like an inept leader.

You opinion is incorrect because her quitting (not to mention multiple other incidents) SHOWS her to be an inept leader.

Actually the argument could be made that due to the unwarranted political attacks being levied against her, she save the state, time, money and a ton of grief and therefore her quitting took a tremendous amount of leadership, whether you believe or accept it or not thus you have failed in your pathetic attempt to prove I'm wrong. Try again.

TerryRC wrote:She is a hypocrite, not that she is that different form other politicians in that regard, but an ignorant one at that.

That in your opinion.

TerryRC wrote:Regardless, I hope the GOP does put her up. They have pandered to this religious right wing extremist type, let them pay the price.

I think you're selling the religious right short. At any rate, she couldn't do any worse then Obama has.

Actually the argument could be made that due to the unwarranted political attacks being levied against her, she save the state, time, money and a ton of grief and therefore her quitting took a tremendous amount of leadership, whether you believe or accept it or not thus you have failed in your pathetic attempt to prove I'm wrong. Try again.

You mean like the witch hunt Clinton went through (thanks Starr and the GOP) and all of the mockery directed at Chelsea, yet he never quit on the people.

Ask the residents of Alaska if they would want Palin back as Governor. Polls show that most of them don't. Palin put her family in the spotlight HERSELF, then boo-hooed about how that turned out.

What is pathetic is how you ignore that.

That in your opinion.

Hypocrite: "Drill, baby, drill" followed by "Obama is in bed with big oil".

Stupid: Saying you get your news from newspapers, then not being able to name a single one.

It seems that it is not my OPINION that Palin is a hypocrite and stupid, it is REALITY.

I think you're selling the religious right short. At any rate, she couldn't do any worse then Obama has.

And I'm sure you have a long, well-thought and rational list about exactly how Obama, personally, has been THE WORST PRESIDENT EVAR!

I don't think he is doing a great job, but tell us exactly how he has failed as president compared to someone like, say, either Bush.

Palin will NEVER sleep with you, no matter how you defend her, oh Internet White Knight.

I'm not defending her Terry. I simply pointed out that you were incorrect in a statement you made and we all know that doesn't set well with someone as egoistical as you. I’m still waiting on you to show how my opinion is incorrect.

I’m still waiting on you to show how my opinion is incorrect.

I did:

Hypocrite: "Drill, baby, drill" followed by "Obama is in bed with big oil".

Stupid: Saying you get your news from newspapers, then not being able to name a single one.

It seems that it is not my OPINION that Palin is a hypocrite and stupid, it is REALITY.

Also, you did not show where I was incorrect. She jetted her kids around as political props, then complained about the publicity. She drew, intentionally drew, the heat, then complained about it.

She quit to make money, plain and simple.

Effectiveness as a leader? The fact that Alaska wouldn't want her back isn't enough for you?

I've backed up my opinion. Insulting me doesn't change that.

TerryRC wrote:I’m still waiting on you to show how my opinion is incorrect.

I did:

Hypocrite: "Drill, baby, drill" followed by "Obama is in bed with big oil".

Stupid: Saying you get your news from newspapers, then not being able to name a single one.

It seems that it is not my OPINION that Palin is a hypocrite and stupid, it is REALITY.

That doesn't prove inept leadership, only that she is a politician. And sadly, intelligence levels either make or break leadership qualities as Obama proves daily

Nope, you failed in showing my opinion was incorrect. Strike 17. Keep trying.

You have given no examples of Palin's competence.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

That doesn't prove inept leadership, only that she is a politician.

What doesn't? The fact that she quit like a whiny baby, or the fact that residents of Alaska don't want her back?

How about the fact that most of the nation doesn't find her competent to be President?

Aaron. In light of all of this, I can't believe any of your opinions are ever touched by reality.

I guess a crazy white conservative that had an exorcism to rid herself of witches and thinks that "what newspapers do you read" is a "gotcha question" is a better choice for POTUS than a progressive darkie that shows no signs of instability.

So, in what ways, specifically, has Obama, personally, been such a failure and in what ways would Palin be superior? I hear all of this vitriol, but very few rational criticisms.


People scare me.

TerryRC wrote:You have given no examples of Palin's competence.

I'm not required to.

TerryRC wrote:Your opinion is irrelevant.

For such an irrelevant opinion, you seem to pay particular attention to what I have to say.

TerryRC wrote:That doesn't prove inept leadership, only that she is a politician.

What doesn't? The fact that she quit like a whiny baby, or the fact that residents of Alaska don't want her back?

Both. No one in WV wants Arch back but that doesn't change the fact that he got things accomplished during his 12 years in office. As for quitting, that in itself demostrates leadership as she put what was best for Alaska above what was best for her. Could you do the same?

TerryRC wrote:How about the fact that most of the nation doesn't find her competent to be President?

So. We're discussing her ineptness compared to President Obama's, not whether or not the nation finds her compeent.

TerryRC wrote:Aaron. In light of all of this, I can't believe any of your opinions are ever touched by reality.

See my second answer.

TerryRC wrote:I guess a crazy white conservative that had an exorcism to rid herself of witches and thinks that "what newspapers do you read" is a "gotcha question" is a better choice for POTUS than a progressive darkie that shows no signs of instability.

I've never said anything about his skin color so you bringing that into the conversation demonstrates just how desperate you are.

TerryRC wrote:So, in what ways, specifically, has Obama, personally, been such a failure and in what ways would Palin be superior? I hear all of this vitriol, but very few rational criticisms.

Name me one specific area where President Obama has taken a leadership role and gotten anything done and we'll start there.

As for one particular program, Palin would not have passed the monstrosity version of healthcare that rewards insurance corporations and pharmaceuticals so we would be much better off as that is likely the straw that will break the camels back.

TerryRC wrote:People scare me.

Not me but then I'm not the type that scares easily. I actually feel sorry for those of you that do. It must be hell trying to get to sleep at night.

He's failing right now on the Gulf coast.

He's failing right now by failing to bring the troops home from Iraq & Afghanistan and infiltrating Pakistan.

He's failing right now by not securing our ports and borders.

He's failing right now by increasing entitlement spending, and increasing deficit spending at an unprecedented rate.

He's failing right now by not showing leadership on monetary policy.

He's failing right now by further eroding states rights.

He's failing right now by not, at the very least, publicly admonishing his political appointees for their incompetence.

He's failing right now by violating federal election laws.

He's failing right now by not listening to the will of the very people who elected him.

He's failing, over and over, and over again.

He's failing right now on the Gulf coast.

He's failing right now by failing to bring the troops home from Iraq & Afghanistan and infiltrating Pakistan.

He's failing right now by not securing our ports and borders.

He's failing right now by increasing entitlement spending, and increasing deficit spending at an unprecedented rate.

He's failing right now by not showing leadership on monetary policy.

He's failing right now by further eroding states rights.

He's failing right now by not, at the very least, publicly admonishing his political appointees for their incompetence.

He's failing right now by violating federal election laws.

He's failing right now by not listening to the will of the very people who elected him.

He's failing, over and over, and over again.

Sounds exactly like Bush's two terms. I don't remember you calling him a failure.

In what way does Palin have the expertise or experience to do better, Steph?

As for one particular program, Palin would not have passed the monstrosity version of healthcare that rewards insurance corporations and pharmaceuticals so we would be much better off as that is likely the straw that will break the camels back.

I don't agree with Obama's plan, but hopefully, we might end with something we can live with. It is better than ignoring a system that was broken and getting worse by the day.

Palin would have been better because she would have ignored the problem, entirely. Interesting.

Name me one specific area where President Obama has taken a leadership role and gotten anything done and we'll start there.

Nope. You said Palin would be better than Obama. Back it up.

Palin is a quitter that whines about the "gotcha" media after she whored her whole family out to the spotlight.

She isn't ready to run with the big dogs. By all means, trot her out for the GOP primary. It will cement Obama's reelection.

I don't necessarily want that and I'm SURE you don't.

TerryRC wrote:…is a better choice for POTUS than a progressive darkie…

I took a ride up into Ohio and spent the night in Amish country and on my way up Terry, I thought a lot about this one sentence from your post. In all my years of posting I have never printed anything that would give you reason or cause to think that I am a racist or that I think President Obama is doing a bad job simply because of the color of his skin yet you accuse me of that very thing. Why?

Either back up your statment, apologize or prove yourself a liar. The choice is yours.

TerryRC wrote:Nope. You said Palin would be better than Obama. Back it up.

No, I did not say Palin would be better then Obama. I said she only sounds like an inept leader where as President Obama has proven he is one.

Aaron wrote:Palin only sounds like an inept leader whereas Obama has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt so to me, the insanity would be to re-elect such a horrendous leader.

And you told me my opinion was incorrect. As you’ve yet to prove that so, you still owe me an explanation as to how my opinion is incorrect, preferably with something a little more substantial then your opinion.

If you can.

TerryRC wrote:Is everyone who works for WalMart "in bed with Walmart" the same way as the CEO is?

Is Obama the CEO of Big Oil? Your analogy is absurd.

Palin has been friendly to Big Oil as Gov. of Alaska far more than Obama has as President.

Regardless, you are not addressing the disconnect: First Obama is stifling big oil, now he is in bed with them. You don't have to agree with Obama to point out that she is contradicting herself, your denials aside.

If he were to make it mandatory for every household in the US to have a gun, people like Palin would accuse him of "being in bed with the NRA".

The oil supply is not necessarily of the same consequence to the American consumer that it is to the oil companies.