Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
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Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704113504575264513748386610.html
Corporations and knowledgeable individual taxpayers are taking their profits now so they can employ the Bush tax cuts for the last time. Since the tax cuts are due to expire Obama thinks he can get by without calling it a tax hike. But taxes will increase across the board and not just above the $200,000 mark. Laffer says that the pre-emptive profit-taking coupled with the economic slowdown that will ensue when the hike hits, will cause an "economic crash" or the "W" we've all been hoping against.
There's not much good news here unless you consider Obama's one term Presidency good news...
Corporations and knowledgeable individual taxpayers are taking their profits now so they can employ the Bush tax cuts for the last time. Since the tax cuts are due to expire Obama thinks he can get by without calling it a tax hike. But taxes will increase across the board and not just above the $200,000 mark. Laffer says that the pre-emptive profit-taking coupled with the economic slowdown that will ensue when the hike hits, will cause an "economic crash" or the "W" we've all been hoping against.
There's not much good news here unless you consider Obama's one term Presidency good news...
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
I get a kick out of the media who go right along with Bongo the President and the 3 to 4 percent growth rate. I keep the stats also and the economy is not growing. The only growth, if you want to call it that, is in the public sector.
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I get a kick out of the media who go right along with Bongo the President and the 3 to 4 percent growth rate. I keep the stats also and the economy is not growing. The only growth, if you want to call it that, is in the public sector.
Bongo? New one on me. Do you mean like the chimp?
Classy.
Anyway, I do not know what stats you are using. Most respectable economists use Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
It shows us on the positive side since September of 2009 and averages better, by far, than the negative GDP of 2008.
Don't take my word for it:
United States GDP Growth Rate
That doesn't mean that we aren't in for trouble. It just means that you are incorrect about recent economic trends.
Bongo? New one on me. Do you mean like the chimp?
Classy.
Anyway, I do not know what stats you are using. Most respectable economists use Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
It shows us on the positive side since September of 2009 and averages better, by far, than the negative GDP of 2008.
Don't take my word for it:
United States GDP Growth Rate
That doesn't mean that we aren't in for trouble. It just means that you are incorrect about recent economic trends.
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
TerryRC wrote: I get a kick out of the media who go right along with Bongo the President and the 3 to 4 percent growth rate. I keep the stats also and the economy is not growing. The only growth, if you want to call it that, is in the public sector.
Bongo? New one on me. Do you mean like the chimp?
Classy.
A Chimp could do far better than Obama, in my opinion. When it comes to governing the man is a blithering idiot. He is nothing more than prima donna you uses the media for photo ops.
Oh by the way, you are the one that read the racial slur into what I wrote. I meant it as saying he was clown. Gee, Terry, all this time I thought you hated racism and now you appear to be the one that is racist.
TerryRC wrote:Anyway, I do not know what stats you are using. Most respectable economists use Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
It shows us on the positive side since September of 2009 and averages better, by far, than the negative GDP of 2008.
Don't take my word for it:
United States GDP Growth Rate
That doesn't mean that we aren't in for trouble. It just means that you are incorrect about recent economic trends.
Take the federal government out of the picture and then tell me the economy is growing. Show me where job creation exceeds jobs that are disapearing. The only sector that is showing real growth is the public sector. Oh by the way, one of the sets of stats I use comes from the Department of Commerce website. Additionally, just because a group of economists say we are growing doesn't make it so. There are also those who are saying that the growth rate is shewed by the growth in the size of government. So big deal when it comes to the economists and what they say.
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
Take the federal government out of the picture and then tell me the economy is growing. Show me where job creation exceeds jobs that are disapearing. The only sector that is showing real growth is the public sector. Oh by the way, one of the sets of stats I use comes from the Department of Commerce website. Additionally, just because a group of economists say we are growing doesn't make it so. There are also those who are saying that the growth rate is shewed by the growth in the size of government. So big deal when it comes to the economists and what they say.
Because you know so much more about the whole thing.
Unemployment has steadily dropped in the US since the beginning of the year. The GDP is running in the black.
Show me one source that shows that the ONLY job growth is in the public sector. YOU made the ridiculous assertion that I hear from bozos like Rush. YOU back it up.
Like I said, GDP is one of the best measures of economic growth. So are dropping unemployment rates (linky) (within reason). This is what the experts use.
Perhaps you use a Ouija board, or something. All evidence is that the economy is, tentatively, on the rebound. You have not provided a bit of evidence to the contrary.
That is exactly what I mean. When it comes to governing the man is a blithering idiot. He is nothing more than prima donna you uses the media for photo ops. Everytime I see that man he turns my stomach.
And you felt the same about the last president who never saw a photo-op he didn't like.
Come up with some real criticisms. Otherwise you just look like a rabid loon.
Because you know so much more about the whole thing.
Unemployment has steadily dropped in the US since the beginning of the year. The GDP is running in the black.
Show me one source that shows that the ONLY job growth is in the public sector. YOU made the ridiculous assertion that I hear from bozos like Rush. YOU back it up.
Like I said, GDP is one of the best measures of economic growth. So are dropping unemployment rates (linky) (within reason). This is what the experts use.
Perhaps you use a Ouija board, or something. All evidence is that the economy is, tentatively, on the rebound. You have not provided a bit of evidence to the contrary.
That is exactly what I mean. When it comes to governing the man is a blithering idiot. He is nothing more than prima donna you uses the media for photo ops. Everytime I see that man he turns my stomach.
And you felt the same about the last president who never saw a photo-op he didn't like.
Come up with some real criticisms. Otherwise you just look like a rabid loon.
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
TerryRC wrote:Take the federal government out of the picture and then tell me the economy is growing. Show me where job creation exceeds jobs that are disapearing. The only sector that is showing real growth is the public sector. Oh by the way, one of the sets of stats I use comes from the Department of Commerce website. Additionally, just because a group of economists say we are growing doesn't make it so. There are also those who are saying that the growth rate is shewed by the growth in the size of government. So big deal when it comes to the economists and what they say.
Because you know so much more about the whole thing.
Unemployment has steadily dropped in the US since the beginning of the year. The GDP is running in the black.
Show me one source that shows that the ONLY job growth is in the public sector. YOU made the ridiculous assertion that I hear from bozos like Rush. YOU back it up.
Like I said, GDP is one of the best measures of economic growth. So are dropping unemployment rates (linky) (within reason). This is what the experts use.
Perhaps you use a Ouija board, or something. All evidence is that the economy is, tentatively, on the rebound. You have not provided a bit of evidence to the contrary.
That is exactly what I mean. When it comes to governing the man is a blithering idiot. He is nothing more than prima donna you uses the media for photo ops. Everytime I see that man he turns my stomach.
And you felt the same about the last president who never saw a photo-op he didn't like.
Come up with some real criticisms. Otherwise you just look like a rabid loon.
At least I ain't a racist. As I said take the Federal Government out of the picture and then show me that the economy is growing.
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At least I ain't a racist. As I said take the Federal Government out of the picture and then show me that the economy is growing.
You have nothing. I showed you that the economy appears to be growing.
YOU made the statement that it is only due to public sector spending. YOU back it up. You claim to have the evidence, show it.
As I say, it doesn't mean there isn't trouble ahead, but things are not as you say. If GDP is rising and unemployment is dropping, how do you infer that the economy is plunging?
So far you have not provided a single bit of evidence to support your rants.
I see I haven't missed much here.
I already know you are wrong.
You have nothing. I showed you that the economy appears to be growing.
YOU made the statement that it is only due to public sector spending. YOU back it up. You claim to have the evidence, show it.
As I say, it doesn't mean there isn't trouble ahead, but things are not as you say. If GDP is rising and unemployment is dropping, how do you infer that the economy is plunging?
So far you have not provided a single bit of evidence to support your rants.
I see I haven't missed much here.
I already know you are wrong.
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
Here you go, Willy.
This shows the reasons likely behind recent trends in the GDP. It is not isolated to the public sector.
Of course, these economists aren't as knowledgeable as you on the subject, but still...
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm
This shows the reasons likely behind recent trends in the GDP. It is not isolated to the public sector.
Of course, these economists aren't as knowledgeable as you on the subject, but still...
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
Is this guy one of your "respectable economists"? After all he's the chief economist for the AFL-CIO.
This is five minutes long. I'm sorry about that. It is good stuff, though....
This is five minutes long. I'm sorry about that. It is good stuff, though....
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
I don't know.
I do know that GDP and unemployment are CLASSICAL indicators of economic health.
Are you saying that is not so, OC?
I do know that GDP and unemployment are CLASSICAL indicators of economic health.
Are you saying that is not so, OC?
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
U.S. Stocks Post Biggest Drop Since May as New-Home Sales Sink
By Kelly Bit
June 26 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell this week, with the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index dropping four straight days, after new-home sales sank to a record low and the Federal Reserve said European indebtedness may harm American growth.
Banks surged yesterday, paring the S&P 500’s weekly drop, after Congress scaled back a financial-reform bill. Microsoft Corp., Chevron Corp. and General Electric Co. led the Dow Jones Industrial Average lower with losses exceeding 6.5 percent this week. Anadarko Petroleum Corp. helped send energy shares to the biggest loss among 10 industries in the S&P 500, while BP Plc fell 15 percent, after the Obama administration said it would appeal a ruling that lifted a moratorium on deepwater drilling.
The S&P 500 fell 3.7 percent, the most since the period that ended May 21, to 1,076.76 this week. The Dow retreated 306.83 points, or 2.9 percent, to 10,143.81 after new-home sales in May slowed to an annual pace of 300,000.
“A horrifying number,” David Kovacs, head of quantitative strategies at Turner Investment Partners in Berwyn, Pennsylvania, which manages $19 billion, said of the housing data. “That’s what could keep investors awake at night with fear. Such a decline in new and existing home sales, these are numbers that really make you pause and begin to worry. It’s not what you would expect 18 months into a recovery.”
The U.S. Commerce Department said June 23 that purchases of new homes fell in May to a record low as a tax credit expired, showing the market remains dependent on government support. The same day, the Fed’s Open Market Committee said “financial conditions have become less supportive of economic growth on balance.” Swaps protecting against the Greek government defaulting on its debt jumped to a record high.
Spurring Volatility
The annual changes to equity indexes managed by Russell Investments took effect after the close of trading yesterday. Traders including Michael Nasto of U.S. Global Investors Inc., which manages about $2.5 billion in San Antonio, said the adjustments may have spurred volatility. The S&P 500 shifted between gains and losses at least 25 times before 1 p.m., according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Russell estimates that $542 billion is invested in funds that seek to track the performance of the firm’s U.S. stock market measures, which include the Russell 1000 Index of the biggest American companies and the Russell 2000 Index of small companies. Investors that mimic those gauges must buy and sell shares to match Russell’s adjustments.
Investor Lawsuit
Energy stocks fell the most among the 10 main S&P 500 industries, retreating 5.9 percent, the most in seven weeks.
Anadarko, the Texas oil company that owns 25 percent of BP’s damaged Gulf of Mexico well, sank 11 percent to $37.68 after being sued by investors who said the company made false statements about drilling safety on June 23.
BP, the largest oil and natural-gas producer in the Gulf of Mexico, slumped 15 percent to $27.02, the lowest price since June 1996.
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Automobiles & Components Index retreated 5.7 percent after Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said consumer restraint and high unemployment would mean “sluggishness” for industry sales.
Harley-Davidson, the largest U.S. motorcycle maker, tumbled 8.7 percent to $24.49 after dropping to $23.70, the lowest closing price since Feb. 12. Ford Motor Co., the second-biggest U.S. carmaker, dropped 6.2 percent to $10.75. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the largest U.S. tiremaker, declined 4.9 percent to $11.40. Johnson Controls Inc., the world’s largest maker of automotive seats, slipped 3.8 percent to $27.76.
No Prohibition
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Financials Index rallied 2.8 percent yesterday after congressional negotiators agreed on reform that limits rather than prohibits the ability of federally insured banks to trade derivatives and invest in hedge funds or private equity funds. The gauge declined 1.4 percent this week.
Moody’s Corp., a credit-rating company, surged 4.3 percent to $22.01 as lawmakers agreed to modify legislation that would have made it easier to sue credit-rating companies.
Goldman Sachs, the most profitable firm in Wall Street history, increased 1.1 percent to $139.66.
JPMorgan Chase & Co. was one of only five companies to gain in the 30-stock Dow this week, rising 0.7 percent to $39.44
By Kelly Bit
June 26 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell this week, with the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index dropping four straight days, after new-home sales sank to a record low and the Federal Reserve said European indebtedness may harm American growth.
Banks surged yesterday, paring the S&P 500’s weekly drop, after Congress scaled back a financial-reform bill. Microsoft Corp., Chevron Corp. and General Electric Co. led the Dow Jones Industrial Average lower with losses exceeding 6.5 percent this week. Anadarko Petroleum Corp. helped send energy shares to the biggest loss among 10 industries in the S&P 500, while BP Plc fell 15 percent, after the Obama administration said it would appeal a ruling that lifted a moratorium on deepwater drilling.
The S&P 500 fell 3.7 percent, the most since the period that ended May 21, to 1,076.76 this week. The Dow retreated 306.83 points, or 2.9 percent, to 10,143.81 after new-home sales in May slowed to an annual pace of 300,000.
“A horrifying number,” David Kovacs, head of quantitative strategies at Turner Investment Partners in Berwyn, Pennsylvania, which manages $19 billion, said of the housing data. “That’s what could keep investors awake at night with fear. Such a decline in new and existing home sales, these are numbers that really make you pause and begin to worry. It’s not what you would expect 18 months into a recovery.”
The U.S. Commerce Department said June 23 that purchases of new homes fell in May to a record low as a tax credit expired, showing the market remains dependent on government support. The same day, the Fed’s Open Market Committee said “financial conditions have become less supportive of economic growth on balance.” Swaps protecting against the Greek government defaulting on its debt jumped to a record high.
Spurring Volatility
The annual changes to equity indexes managed by Russell Investments took effect after the close of trading yesterday. Traders including Michael Nasto of U.S. Global Investors Inc., which manages about $2.5 billion in San Antonio, said the adjustments may have spurred volatility. The S&P 500 shifted between gains and losses at least 25 times before 1 p.m., according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Russell estimates that $542 billion is invested in funds that seek to track the performance of the firm’s U.S. stock market measures, which include the Russell 1000 Index of the biggest American companies and the Russell 2000 Index of small companies. Investors that mimic those gauges must buy and sell shares to match Russell’s adjustments.
Investor Lawsuit
Energy stocks fell the most among the 10 main S&P 500 industries, retreating 5.9 percent, the most in seven weeks.
Anadarko, the Texas oil company that owns 25 percent of BP’s damaged Gulf of Mexico well, sank 11 percent to $37.68 after being sued by investors who said the company made false statements about drilling safety on June 23.
BP, the largest oil and natural-gas producer in the Gulf of Mexico, slumped 15 percent to $27.02, the lowest price since June 1996.
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Automobiles & Components Index retreated 5.7 percent after Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said consumer restraint and high unemployment would mean “sluggishness” for industry sales.
Harley-Davidson, the largest U.S. motorcycle maker, tumbled 8.7 percent to $24.49 after dropping to $23.70, the lowest closing price since Feb. 12. Ford Motor Co., the second-biggest U.S. carmaker, dropped 6.2 percent to $10.75. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the largest U.S. tiremaker, declined 4.9 percent to $11.40. Johnson Controls Inc., the world’s largest maker of automotive seats, slipped 3.8 percent to $27.76.
No Prohibition
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Financials Index rallied 2.8 percent yesterday after congressional negotiators agreed on reform that limits rather than prohibits the ability of federally insured banks to trade derivatives and invest in hedge funds or private equity funds. The gauge declined 1.4 percent this week.
Moody’s Corp., a credit-rating company, surged 4.3 percent to $22.01 as lawmakers agreed to modify legislation that would have made it easier to sue credit-rating companies.
Goldman Sachs, the most profitable firm in Wall Street history, increased 1.1 percent to $139.66.
JPMorgan Chase & Co. was one of only five companies to gain in the 30-stock Dow this week, rising 0.7 percent to $39.44
Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
Stock volatility is not always a good indicator.
Again, I ask you closet economists: are GDP and unemployment figures not two of the classical ways of measuring economic health?
Again, I ask you closet economists: are GDP and unemployment figures not two of the classical ways of measuring economic health?
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Hiring weak in May except for Census workers, U.S. says
By Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Nonfarm payrolls grew by a seasonally adjusted 431,000 in May, but virtually all the new jobs were temporary jobs at the U.S. Census, leaving private-sector hiring very weak, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Excluding 411,000 temporary Census workers, payrolls rose by 20,000 in May. According to the survey of 400,000 business establishments, private-sector payrolls increased by 41,000, the fifth straight monthly gain.
"A disappointing private payroll number to be sure," said John Ryding and Conrad DeQuadros of RDQ Economics.
The payrolls growth came in weaker than the 540,000 increase expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch. See our complete economic calendar and consensus forecast.
Prices for Treasurys rallied as investors on Wall Street bid stock prices sharply lower in reaction to the payrolls data. See full story on the markets.
Digesting the data, Wells Fargo chief economist John Silvia said the U.S. economic recovery continues.
There's growth, he said, but it's "too slow to generate the revenues public policymaking are hoping for, too slow to generate all the jobs households are expecting."
The nation's unemployment rate fell to a seasonally adjusted 9.7% in May from 9.9% in April, according to a separate survey of 60,000 households. Economists had been expecting the jobless rate to sink to 9.8%. Read the full report on the Bureau of Labor Statistics website.
The decline wasn't particularly good news, however, because it reflected 322,000 people dropping out of the labor force, partially reversing April's 805,000 increase. While unemployment dropped by 287,000 to 15 million for May, employment also fell, dipping 35,000 to 139.4 million.
Nevertheless, employment as measured by the household survey is up by 1.6 million since December.
The participation rate dropped by two-tenths of a percentage point, to 65%.
An alternative measure of unemployment, which includes discouraged workers and those forced to work part-time because of the weak economy, fell to 16.6% from 17.1%.
Economists were divided about what will happen next.
Hiring "will slow down markedly in the second half of the year," wrote Harm Bandholz, chief U.S. economist for UniCredit Markets.
"We think that the unemployment rate will rise again toward 10% in summer," he told clients.
By Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Nonfarm payrolls grew by a seasonally adjusted 431,000 in May, but virtually all the new jobs were temporary jobs at the U.S. Census, leaving private-sector hiring very weak, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Excluding 411,000 temporary Census workers, payrolls rose by 20,000 in May. According to the survey of 400,000 business establishments, private-sector payrolls increased by 41,000, the fifth straight monthly gain.
"A disappointing private payroll number to be sure," said John Ryding and Conrad DeQuadros of RDQ Economics.
The payrolls growth came in weaker than the 540,000 increase expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch. See our complete economic calendar and consensus forecast.
Prices for Treasurys rallied as investors on Wall Street bid stock prices sharply lower in reaction to the payrolls data. See full story on the markets.
Digesting the data, Wells Fargo chief economist John Silvia said the U.S. economic recovery continues.
There's growth, he said, but it's "too slow to generate the revenues public policymaking are hoping for, too slow to generate all the jobs households are expecting."
The nation's unemployment rate fell to a seasonally adjusted 9.7% in May from 9.9% in April, according to a separate survey of 60,000 households. Economists had been expecting the jobless rate to sink to 9.8%. Read the full report on the Bureau of Labor Statistics website.
The decline wasn't particularly good news, however, because it reflected 322,000 people dropping out of the labor force, partially reversing April's 805,000 increase. While unemployment dropped by 287,000 to 15 million for May, employment also fell, dipping 35,000 to 139.4 million.
Nevertheless, employment as measured by the household survey is up by 1.6 million since December.
The participation rate dropped by two-tenths of a percentage point, to 65%.
An alternative measure of unemployment, which includes discouraged workers and those forced to work part-time because of the weak economy, fell to 16.6% from 17.1%.
Economists were divided about what will happen next.
Hiring "will slow down markedly in the second half of the year," wrote Harm Bandholz, chief U.S. economist for UniCredit Markets.
"We think that the unemployment rate will rise again toward 10% in summer," he told clients.
Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
322,000 people dropped out of the work force. Doesn't sound too healthy to me.
wth do I know?
wth do I know?
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
are GDP and unemployment figures not two of the classical ways of measuring economic health?
One thing for sure, they are controlled by the Obama government.
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Yes, Terry, GDP is a classical prime indicator of the health of an economy. You are entirely correct and I won't deny it.
I think Mr. Laffer's point is that deficit spending along Keynsian lines is a blunder that will result in another dip into recession. This is similar to the argument that all Roosevelt's actions made the Great Depression much longer than it would have been had he cut spending and allowed the private sector to make corrections that would have ended the Depression.
When all of Europe sees an eminent collapse because of oppressive debt what would possess us to copy their descent into debt?
GDP is like any other indicator of health or sickness: a picture at one particular moment. It is the longer term trends that present the truer picture. Mr. Laffer is saddled with a relationship to Reagan and a partisanship that may or may not exist.
I think Mr. Laffer's point is that deficit spending along Keynsian lines is a blunder that will result in another dip into recession. This is similar to the argument that all Roosevelt's actions made the Great Depression much longer than it would have been had he cut spending and allowed the private sector to make corrections that would have ended the Depression.
When all of Europe sees an eminent collapse because of oppressive debt what would possess us to copy their descent into debt?
GDP is like any other indicator of health or sickness: a picture at one particular moment. It is the longer term trends that present the truer picture. Mr. Laffer is saddled with a relationship to Reagan and a partisanship that may or may not exist.
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Re: Art Laffer Predicts Economic Crash in 2011
I'm sorry that I failed to address unemployment. It, too, is a classical indicator of economic health or sickness. Isn't unemployment hovering at nearly 10%?
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ohio county wrote:I'm sorry that I failed to address unemployment. It, too, is a classical indicator of economic health or sickness. Isn't unemployment hovering at nearly 10%?
The real unemployment rate which takes into account those that have given up looking for work and those who are under employed is at 17% approximately.
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