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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:21 am

Freedom vs. Sharia Law
Human Events ^ | 21 Oct 10 | Ted Nugent

We've been told there are so-called moderate Muslims who deplore terrorism and that Islam has been hijacked by extremists.

If there are in fact moderate Muslims, they have been quiet as mosque mice regarding their positions. For example, Americans don't know if moderate Muslims recognize Israel, what they think about women's rights, or if they believe the proposed New York City mosque should be moved to another location out of concern and sensitivity for the families of the victims of 9/11.

We also don't know if there are other freedom-loving and freedom-fighting Muslims who respect the rights of others to burn the Koran, draw cartoons of Mohammad in newspapers, hold marches to condemn Hamas and other terror organizations, write unflattering books about Islam, and vigorously support allowing people of other faiths to practice their faith in the city of Mecca where all other religions besides Islam are currently outlawed.

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...

IMHO, a so-called moderate Muslim is one who offers you two aspirins before cutting your head off for being an infidel friend of the ape/pig Zionist Jews.
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Post by TerryRC Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:59 am

If there are in fact moderate Muslims, they have been quiet as mosque mice regarding their positions.

I am so sick of this old lie.

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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:46 am

TerryRC wrote:If there are in fact moderate Muslims, they have been quiet as mosque mice regarding their positions.

I am so sick of this old lie.

TerryRC, you have always been sickened by the truth--if it doesn't agree with your truth.
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Post by Keli Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:51 am

Salim Mansur in the London Free Press:

Since at least Sept. 11, 2001, the non-Muslim world at large has been waiting for that segment of the Muslim population designated as "moderate" to resolutely denounce terrorists who, in defiling its faith-tradition, have subverted Islam into a cult of death.

The expectation there is a large, identifiable segment of "moderate" Muslims is a transposition to the Muslim world of the idea of "moderation" in politics and religion that sustains democracies.

It is also a natural expectation that the sort of extremism associated with "jihadi" (war-mongering) politics of Muslim terrorism and suicide bombings would generate a counter-offensive by "moderate" Muslims, repudiating such violence and isolating extremists politically and socially, while supporting the global war on terror.

But this has not happened. On the contrary, as atrocities mount, Muslims generally have remained -- their private anguish aside --publicly complacent, and their religious leaders divided on what should be the proper Islamic response.

There has been no spontaneous or organized demonstration of Muslims across the Arab-Muslim world, nor in European or North American cities where Muslims reside in increasing numbers, in support of victims of such terror and in unqualified condemnation of extremists who exploit Islam for their criminal purposes.

Dissension among Muslim religious leaders on whether to condemn terrorism and suicide bombings -- and the absence of any effort by the Muslim majority to express its disgust with extremism -- invariably lead to questioning the nature of Islam by non-Muslims.

Instead of witnessing "moderate" Muslims resolutely taking back their faith-tradition from extremists and murderers, the world has grown numb to endless apologetics and polemics explaining away "jihadi" politics as a misguided, though inexcusable, response to the wrongs inflicted upon Muslims by the West.

The truth is there does not exist an identifiable body of Muslims, substantive in number or an outright majority, who could be described as "moderate" by their repudiation of Muslim extremists.

Violence has been an integral part of Muslim history, irrespective of whether it is sanctioned by Islam, and Muslims who unhesitatingly use violence to advance their political ambitions have created a climate within their faith-culture that any Muslim who questions such practice is then deemed apostate and subject to harm.
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Post by TerryRC Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:53 am

TerryRC, you have always been sickened by the truth--if it doesn't agree with your truth.

Oh, Terry. You just ignore reality. Moderate muslims have been speaking out against extremists for years. You just refuse to look because it disagrees with your world view.

Here is the first of many examples. Just do a little googling: http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:04 pm

Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not.

by Ali Sina, FaithFreedom.org, March 14, 2010

Read more at: http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/2010/03/13/exposing-the-myth-of-moderate-islam/
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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:13 pm

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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:40 am

TerryRC wrote:TerryRC, you have always been sickened by the truth--if it doesn't agree with your truth.

Oh, Terry. You just ignore reality. Moderate muslims have been speaking out against extremists for years. You just refuse to look because it disagrees with your world view.

Here is the first of many examples. Just do a little googling: http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm



Gabriel and Rodgers: Exposing the myth of 'moderate' Muslims
By: Brigitte Gabriel and Guy Rodgers
OpEd Contributors
September 3, 2010

In an October 19, 2001, article by The New York Times, supposed moderate Muslim Anwar al-Awlaki was praised, “…as a new generation of Muslim leader capable of merging East and West." He is now the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

Sami Al-Arian, a former tenured professor at the University of South Florida, was thought to be a moderate Muslim bridge-builder and won the friendship of prominent leaders of both political parties.

It is now known that Al-Arian was the head of Islamic Jihad in America, who pled guilty to one count of conspiracy to provide material support to a specially designated terrorist organization.

Most recently, the ongoing Ground Zero Mosque controversy again highlights the failure of government, academia and the establishment media to distinguish between a “moderate Muslim” and a “radical Muslim.”

Why the misjudgment?

Almost certainly, the vast majority of these people don’t understand the role “taqiyya” plays in the advance of radical Islam. “Taqiyya” is sharia-sanctioned deception, patterned after Mohammed’s use of it to advance Islam against his enemies. Today radicals, under that same sanction, lie to advance their real agenda.

As a result, many in government, academia and the media fail to do their due diligence to ascertain what these supposedly “moderate” Muslims really believe and what their true intentions are.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/Gabriel-and-Rogers-Exposing-the-myth-of-moderate-Muslims-102181884.html#ixzz13GASDoo4
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Post by SamCogar Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:34 am

Armon Ayers wrote:
TerryRC wrote:If there are in fact moderate Muslims, they have been quiet as mosque mice regarding their positions.

I am so sick of this old lie.

TerryRC, you have always been sickened by the truth--if it doesn't agree with your truth.

You got that right.

As did Salim Mansur get this right.

It is also a natural expectation that the sort of extremism associated with "jihadi" (war-mongering) politics of Muslim terrorism and suicide bombings would generate a counter-offensive by "moderate" Muslims, repudiating such violence and isolating extremists politically and socially, while supporting the global war on terror.

Just like the "firing" of NPR's Juan Williams generated a counter-offensive by "moderate" Americans of all beliefs and colors, repudiating such actions by NPR's President and CEO.

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Post by SheikBen Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:14 pm

TerryRC wrote:TerryRC, you have always been sickened by the truth--if it doesn't agree with your truth.

Oh, Terry. You just ignore reality. Moderate muslims have been speaking out against extremists for years. You just refuse to look because it disagrees with your world view.

Here is the first of many examples. Just do a little googling: http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

Hi TerryRC,

This is from the website and I found it fascinating:

"Both Muslims and the media are generally on the mark when they identify moderate Muslims as reflective, self-critical, pro-democracy and human-rights and closet secularists. But who are they different from and how?"


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Post by TerryRC Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:20 am

So we agree moderate muslims DO EXIST ( I already know that) and DO speak out against their radical fellows?

Good. Terry, stop lying about this.

Many thanks.

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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:38 am

TerryRC wrote:So we agree moderate muslims DO EXIST ( I already know that) and DO speak out against their radical fellows?

Good. Terry, stop lying about this.

Many thanks.

Well, I am glad that you agree that a moderate Muslim is just one that has not been radicalized yet--and gives two aspirins to a person before they stone an adulterer or behead an infidel. Allah awkbarf!
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Post by TerryRC Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:41 am

Well, I am glad that you agree that a moderate Muslim is just one that has not been radicalized yet--and gives two aspirins to a person before they stone an adulterer or behead an infidel. Allah awkbarf!

As long as you agree that every christian is a sermon away from bombing a Planned Parenthood.

No? I thought not.

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Post by Keli Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:17 am

TerryRC wrote:Well, I am glad that you agree that a moderate Muslim is just one that has not been radicalized yet--and gives two aspirins to a person before they stone an adulterer or behead an infidel. Allah awkbarf!

As long as you agree that every christian is a sermon away from bombing a Planned Parenthood.

No? I thought not.

Well, I can see how that some parishioners might incorrectly rationalize: If it is accepted that Muslims are justified--in some people's minds--to blow up aircraft, behead infidels, stone adulterous women, etc., then...
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Post by TerryRC Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:21 am

Well, I can see how that some parishioners might incorrectly rationalize: If it is accepted that Muslims are justified--in some people's minds--to blow up aircraft, behead infidels, stone adulterous women, etc., then...

Anyone that does wrong feels that they are justified. Like the woman that bludgeoned her kids to death in the back yard - god told her to.

Insanity doesn't stop at religious boundaries... .

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Post by Keli Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:05 am

TerryRC wrote:Well, I can see how that some parishioners might incorrectly rationalize: If it is accepted that Muslims are justified--in some people's minds--to blow up aircraft, behead infidels, stone adulterous women, etc., then...

Anyone that does wrong feels that they are justified. Like the woman that bludgeoned her kids to death in the back yard - god told her to.

Insanity doesn't stop at religious boundaries... .

I agree. You are proof of your claim.
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Post by TerryRC Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:32 am

I agree. You are proof of your claim.

Why am I proof of insanity? Because I don't believe in a magical sky pixie and his zombie son dispensing arbitrary justice upon us all?

Really? I'm the crazy one?

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