Seniors making a difference

Seniors making a difference

As we get older we sometimes begin to doubt our ability to
"make a difference" in the world. It is at these times that
our hopes are boosted by the remarkable achievements of
other "seniors" who have found the courage to take on
challenges that would make many of us wither.

Harold Schlumberg is such a person:



QUOTE FROM HAROLD:

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that
you're retired?' Well, I'm fortunate to have a chemical
engineering background, and one of the things I enjoy most
is converting coffee and ice tea into urine. Then I spray it
over a photo of Obama! I do it every day and I really enjoy it."

Harold is an inspiration to us all.

Thank you for that!

Keli wrote: Seniors making a difference

As we get older we sometimes begin to doubt our ability to
"make a difference" in the world. It is at these times that
our hopes are boosted by the remarkable achievements of
other "seniors" who have found the courage to take on
challenges that would make many of us wither.

Harold Schlumberg is such a person:



QUOTE FROM HAROLD:

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that
you're retired?' Well, I'm fortunate to have a chemical
engineering background, and one of the things I enjoy most
is converting coffee and ice tea into urine. Then I spray it
over a photo of Obama! I do it every day and I really enjoy it."

Harold is an inspiration to us all.

So "piss Christ" is not OK, but "piss Obama" is OK. Now we understand.

That Obama isn't Jesus? Did it take you that long?!?!?

SheikBen wrote:That Obama isn't Jesus? Did it take you that long?!?!?

They were / are both just men. It does not take "long" to understand that. That we profess to loathe one and love the other simultaneously, or vice-versa, tells us more about us than about either Jesus or Obama.

ziggy wrote:

SheikBen wrote:That Obama isn't Jesus? Did it take you that long?!?!?

They were / are both just men. It does not take "long" to understand that. That we profess to loathe one and love the other simultaneously, or vice-versa, tells us more about us than about either Jesus or Obama.

It is okay, Ziggy. It's a wash! Obama is a Muslim. So, it is kind of a Piss Mohammad. Isn't it?

ziggy wrote:They were / are both just men. It does not take "long" to understand that. That we profess to loathe one and love the other simultaneously, or vice-versa, tells us more about us than about either Jesus or Obama.

So Zigster, ....... what you say??? ..... iffen I throw LBJ into the mix to make it "Jesus, LBJ or Obama".

ziggy wrote:

So "piss Christ" is not OK, but "piss Obama" is OK. Now we understand.

If a person chooses to pee on a picture of Jesus, that's their choice. What burns me, is when tax dollars are extorted from me and used to support such acts, calling it supporting the arts.

ziggy wrote:

SheikBen wrote:That Obama isn't Jesus? Did it take you that long?!?!?

They were / are both just men. It does not take "long" to understand that. That we profess to loathe one and love the other simultaneously, or vice-versa, tells us more about us than about either Jesus or Obama.

As you have no authority to make such a declaration, that is your opinion, right Ziggy!!!

Ahhh, Zig. For shame! Shame!! Oooohhhhhh.

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Obama was born (in Hawaii) 50 some years ago and wouldn't die for anyone's sins even if he could.

But, let's take questions of Truth out of it--you do know that more people worship Jesus than Obama, don't you? As such, the piss art greatly offended many more masses of people than Keli's piece would, which is far less graphic also. Do you suppose that such a comparison is uncharitable? I suggest that it is.

As you have no authority to make such a declaration, that is your opinion, right Ziggy!!!

I do not need any "authority" to state the obvious- and which, coincidentally, does agree with my opinion.

But, let's take questions of Truth out of it--------.

Which kind of Truth? Political Truth, or Religious Truth? But as both often represent more Un-Truth than Truth anyway, questions of Truth are already out of it.

------------ you do know that more people worship Jesus than Obama, don't you? As such, the piss art greatly offended many more masses of people than Keli's piece would, which is far less graphic also. Do you suppose that such a comparison is uncharitable? I suggest that it is.

Uncharitable? Maybe. But if charity were the standard here, Keli would have refrained from his original post this thread.

So Zigster, ....... what you say??? ..... iffen I throw LBJ into the mix to make it "Jesus, LBJ or Obama".

It's OK with me. I have no more and no less loathe nor love for any one of the three than I do the others. So bring 'em on.

ziggy wrote:

As you have no authority to make such a declaration, that is your opinion, right Ziggy!!!

I do not need any "authority" to state the obvious- and which, coincidentally, does agree with my opinion.

75% of Americans disagree with you and would say like me, prove the obvious agrees with you.

And you speak for ALL of them?

ziggy wrote:

But, let's take questions of Truth out of it--------.

Which kind of Truth? Political Truth, or Religious Truth? But as both often represent more Un-Truth than Truth anyway, questions of Truth are already out of it.

------------ you do know that more people worship Jesus than Obama, don't you? As such, the piss art greatly offended many more masses of people than Keli's piece would, which is far less graphic also. Do you suppose that such a comparison is uncharitable? I suggest that it is.

Uncharitable? Maybe. But if charity were the standard here, Keli would have refrained from his original post this thread.

So it's OK to be uncharitable because Keli is? As long as the man is influencing you, you do well to hear what he says about Jesus.

SheikBen wrote:

ziggy wrote:

But, let's take questions of Truth out of it--------.

Which kind of Truth? Political Truth, or Religious Truth? But as both often represent more Un-Truth than Truth anyway, questions of Truth are already out of it.

------------ you do know that more people worship Jesus than Obama, don't you? As such, the piss art greatly offended many more masses of people than Keli's piece would, which is far less graphic also. Do you suppose that such a comparison is uncharitable? I suggest that it is.

Uncharitable? Maybe. But if charity were the standard here, Keli would have refrained from his original post this thread.

So it's OK to be uncharitable because Keli is? As long as the man is influencing you, you do well to hear what he says about Jesus.

The Keli of this forum does not talk much about Jesus- if at all. Keli here is mostly a political "hit man"- offering all manner of short and long rants about his many political and/or philosophical nemeses- and as best I recall, little to nothing about Jesus. But, in the inimitable fashion of Ross Perot, I'm all ears.

The next thing you know Ziggy is going to want to see my birth certificate...

I used to wonder why the Pastor didn't make his case. Then I saw the writing of those who question the existance of his belief system and now I understand why he remains silent on the subject.

Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Keli wrote:Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

That goes both ways, you know. There are fools of all persuasions.

Keli wrote:The next thing you know Ziggy is going to want to see my birth certificate...

And written in Sanskrit, no less!

Keli wrote:Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Hey, I understand. I don't know of many Preachers or Pastors who would discuss the bible with someone who has their mind made up and their sole agenda is to elicit an argument, especially when that person has proven time and again they don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.

I figured it was either that or you ran out of gold stars one.

I'm curious Ziggy, why do you feel compelled to disprove the existance of Jesus and to ridicule the belief of his followers?

I really like Ziggy.

Having said that, I think the man is a true child of the 1960s. It is almost as if the man takes radical positions just for the sake of taking them.