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Loserville: Obama Is Channeling Kerry and Gore

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Post by ziggy Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:44 pm

Like John Kerry and Al Gore before him, Obama, who ran his primary campaign as a liberal, staking out an anti-war position, has morphed over recent weeks into a Republican-lite candidate, calling for a hard line against Palestinian rights, threatening to attack Iran, calling for an expansion of the disastrous war in Afghanistan, and backing away from genuine health care reform and other important progressive goals here at home.

One might think that after watching Democratic candidates lose the last two presidential elections by following exactly this kind of “strategy,” if it can be called that, Obama and his campaign managers would have decided to try something different, but it appears that the Democratic Party at the top is hopelessly in the grip of corporate interests that favor war, free-market nostrums and corporate welfare. (Okay, I know Gore really won the 2000 election, but he should have won it so convincingly—for example taking New Hampshire and his home state of Tennessee—that the election couldn’t have been stolen. And Kerry, similarly, should not have had his race determined by a close vote in economically distressed Ohio, which should have been his by a blowout.)

Obama got where he is—the first African-American major party nominee and the first black candidate with a real shot at winning the White House—by appealing to the Democratic Party’s liberal base. Now Zogby reports that Obama’s support among liberals has plunged 12 percent. That’s liberals folks!

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Post by SheikBen Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:15 am

I disagree, Zig. I think the liberals who wrote that will vote for Obama and that his Republican-lite ways he learned from Clinton.
No poll indicates that liberals are the deciding factor in elections but rather independents and moderates. Gore lost in 2000 (getting more popular votes, to be sure) by alienating gun owners in West Virginia. Had WV gone to Gore and not Bush, Gore would have been President.

Kerry lost in 2004 because he is a dumbass, not because liberals did not vote for him. Kerry won convincingly the "anybody but Bush" crowd; he lost in specifically those places where being a Republican lite would have helped, rather than hurt, his chances.

I will agree that Obama has sold out his principles for the campaign, but that will go away if and when elected. What it won't do is cost him very many liberal votes at all. The ones on the left who have the independence to consider other options have already done so and have certainly found an alternative. The ones on the left who are primarily motivated by Bush hatred will be very unlikely to support anyone else but Obama.

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Post by SheikBen Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:17 am

"Now as sympathetic as I am to the politics espoused by Ralph Nader and by the Green Party, I'm well aware of the futility of Third Party campaigns. I'm not one of those who expect or demand leftist perfection from a candidate"--at the end of the column/blog post, after the author previously declared being unable as a progressive to vote for Obama.

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