International cooperation working?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=abDNqy86viis&refer=home

Well it would appear that President Bush's newfound strategy of international cooperation is beginning to reap dividends.

Would that he had applied the same strategy of diplomacy and cooperation instead of plunging us into the Iraq quagmire....

sodbuster wrote:Would that he had applied the same strategy of diplomacy and cooperation instead of plunging us into the Iraq quagmire....

Ah, how easy you guys forget.

Bush went to the UN BEFORE invading Iraq and they said GO unanimously.

He went to Congress BEFORE invading Iraq and they said GO by more then a 70% margin, democrats included.

He took his case to the American people BEFORE invading Iraq and they said GO, by a 70% plus as well.

It wasn’t until most lost their resolve and polls started plummeting and public opinion turned that his PRE-APPROVED actions became a quagmire. It’s not his fault that there were those out there who lacked the courage of their so called convictions to stand up to him and he had then and as maintained the resolve to follow through on what he said.

I guess that's why I have the sinking feeling that when the pain of our economic conditions lingers for a couple of years and even when we do come out of it with tighter credit and stricter guidelines for homeownership that this will suddenly become "Bushes bailout" and "Bushes recession" even though it was overwhelming supported by democrats.

Well it is President Bush's rescue plan aaron.

And it had bi-partisan support.

Just like the resolution to enable President Bush to use military action.

And I hope it works.

But fact is a majority of House Democrats did not support support the Iraq resolution.

Let alone 70%.

It is sad that we can't even comment on these major issues of our day without everything being totally politicized and trying to blame the other side.

Personally I am glad Democrats displayed courage and agreed to support President Bush's rescue plan and put the needs of their country first.

Even though they are constantly reminded that they made a mistake in helping the republicans obtain a majority on the Iraq resolution.

And who criticizes them more for supporting President Bush on the Iraq war? Republicans.

sodbuster wrote:
It is sad that we can't even comment on these major issues of our day without everything being totally politicized and trying to blame the other side.

You mean like this?

sodbuster wrote:]But fact is a majority of House Democrats did not support support the Iraq resolution.

Let alone 70%.

And this?

sodbuster wrote:Would that he had applied the same strategy of diplomacy and cooperation instead of plunging us into the Iraq quagmire....

Nah, he's talking more about this:

dems to "rescue" taxpayers

and other bipartisan stuff.

sodbuster wrote:Well it is President Bush's rescue plan aaron.

And it had bi-partisan support.

Sherman, why the hell don't you make up my mind ..... and stick with it.

One day you are telling us that President Bush is dumber than a box-of-rocks,

and the next day you are telling us that President Bush is a genius because of his "bailout" or rescue plan.

Make up my mind ....... as to the "true cause" for you being what you are.



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sodbuster wrote:Well it is President Bush's rescue plan aaron.

And it had bi-partisan support.

Just like the resolution to enable President Bush to use military action.

And I hope it works.

But fact is a majority of House Democrats did not support support the Iraq resolution.

Let alone 70%.

It is sad that we can't even comment on these major issues of our day without everything being totally politicized and trying to blame the other side.

Personally I am glad Democrats displayed courage and agreed to support President Bush's rescue plan and put the needs of their country first.

Even though they are constantly reminded that they made a mistake in helping the republicans obtain a majority on the Iraq resolution.

And who criticizes them more for supporting President Bush on the Iraq war? Republicans.

No Sherm, it’s not President Bush's rescue plan, it started out as Hank Paulson’s of Wall Street riches and fame, former chairman of Goldman Sach's. Bush listened to his doomsday statements the same as you guys did and stated that Congress had to pass the bill and he would sign it into law.

The actual bailout that passed was a DEMOCRATIC bailout because Nancy Pelosi destroyed the closest thing to a bi-partisan plan with a last minute, highly political speech designed to do exactly what it did, kill the bill.

And the reason is simple; to add more taxes to the bill. What started out at $700 Billion is now going to cost Americans over $1 Trillion and like it or not, as a majority of democrats voted for it and it came from a democratic senate, it's a democratic bill with enough provisions installed to buy enough house republicans to get the bill passed. That's fact.

As for Iraq, had democrats wanted to stop GWB from going to Iraq, they could have. They didn't because they didn't have the backbone to stand up against a nearly 80% approval rating and what almost 80% of Americans wanted.

You want to affix blame, that's fine. Just be man enough to place it where it belongs. Democrats are JUST AS RESPONSIBLE as Bush is for Iraq.

That's another fact.

Aaron wrote: Democrats are JUST AS RESPONSIBLE as Bush is for Iraq.

That's another fact.

Maybe it is in the RWW (Right-Wing-Wacko) echo chamber. But, out here in the real world Iraq is, and always will be, known as Bush's war.

bmd wrote:
Maybe it is in the RWW (Right-Wing-Wacko) echo chamber. But, out here in the real world Iraq is, and always will be, known as Bush's war.

Sure it will be ....... because the Democrats joined sides with the terrorists and insurgents in Iraq to help them defeat Bush and our Military.

And they damn near were successful .......... and haven't given up yet.

So you partisan Democrats will always call it "Bush's War" because you don't want to be blamed for what you did. Thousands of our Military dead and wounded, BILLION$ in war costs ........... and all because the Democrats were trying to get even because they lost the Election.

What a pityful bunch ......... and the public is on the verge of giving them total control of our Government.

Forgive them Lord for they know not what they are about to do.



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bmd wrote:

Aaron wrote: Democrats are JUST AS RESPONSIBLE as Bush is for Iraq.

That's another fact.

Maybe it is in the RWW (Right-Wing-Wacko) echo chamber. But, out here in the real world Iraq is, and always will be, known as Bush's war.

And in the real world, I'd call that a coward scared to take responsibility for his own actions Billy.

Sure it will be ....... because the Democrats joined sides with the terrorists and insurgents in Iraq to help them defeat Bush and our Military.

HURRR... Librals are terrerists! Eleventy!

"You want to affix blame, that's fine. Just be man enough to place it where it belongs. Democrats are JUST AS RESPONSIBLE as Bush is for Iraq."

Well Aaron I do agree that Democrats did join with your side on Iraq and are partly to blame.

But not 70% of them.

Yes let's place blame where it is due.

But we should also recognize those Democrats (and a handful of republicans) who were opposed.

sodbuster wrote:"You want to affix blame, that's fine. Just be man enough to place it where it belongs. Democrats are JUST AS RESPONSIBLE as Bush is for Iraq."

Well Aaron I do agree that Democrats did join with your side on Iraq and are partly to blame.

But not 70% of them.

Yes let's place blame where it is due.

But we should also recognize those Democrats (and a handful of republicans) who were opposed.

I said 70% of Congress (that means all members) as well as +70% of the population supported the action. Those are facts that the real world can not change.