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Obama Offers Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff...
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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We got a new word with Carl Rove in Rovian.
Emanuelian almost sounds biblical.
Man, it seems like everything is going good for the democrats these days.
Emanuelian almost sounds biblical.
Man, it seems like everything is going good for the democrats these days.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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I've heard he is considering a run at the Speakers job. Could some infighting be instore for democrats?
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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I think there's going to be lots of fighting...on both sides of the aisle.
I read a statement by Richard Viguerie in which he states all Republican Congressional leaders should resign. I agree they should resign their leadership posts immediately. They have failed their party, they have failed conservatives, they have failed America.
Here it is:
I read a statement by Richard Viguerie in which he states all Republican Congressional leaders should resign. I agree they should resign their leadership posts immediately. They have failed their party, they have failed conservatives, they have failed America.
Here it is:
Manassas, Virginia) "Republican congressional leaders have failed their party, they have failed the conservatives who make up their party's base, and they have failed the American people. They should resign immediately," Richard A. Viguerie, Chairman of ConservativeHQ.com, said.
"The political party that conservatives have supported with their volunteer work, money, and votes has not supported conservatives. That has to change. The congressional leadership must be replaced with principled conservatives.
"If the congressional leaders refuse to resign, grassroots conservatives should cut off their support - their financial support, and their volunteer support," Viguerie said. "Conservatives should channel their support to principled conservative candidates and to organizations that will promote a conservative agenda.
"Not one cent, and not one minute of volunteer work, should go to the Republican Party until the congressional leadership is replaced with principled conservatives. These leaders still don't understand why the voters have rejected them, and they won't 'get it' until conservatives hit them where it hurts."
Said Viguerie: "In this election, the people did not reject conservatism. They rejected failed, incompetent Big Government Republican leaders. It's time for conservatives to do the same."
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Potential Secretary of State John Kerry: Elected to the Senate in 1984; served every day since.
Potential Secretary of State Bill Richardson: Elected to the House of Representatives in 1982, served until 1997. Former U.N. Ambassador, Secretary of Energy.
Potential Secretary of State Anthony Lake: Joined the State Department in 1962. Worked in the Carter Administration. Named National Security Adviser in 1993. Nomination to be CIA Director was withdrawn by the Clinton administration.
Potential Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers: Joined the World Bank as chief economist in 1991. Served in Clinton's Treasury Department and actually previously served as Treasury Secretary from 1999 to 2001.
Potential Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin: Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, 1993 to 1995. Treasury Secretary, 1995-1999.
Potential Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner: Joined Kissinger and Associates in 1985; joined the Treasury Department in 1988 and served in various capacities until 2001.
Potential Treasury Secretary Laura Tyson: Chairman of the President's Council of Economic Advisers from 1993 to 1995; Director of the National Economic Council from 1995 to 1996.
Potential Treasury Secretary Paul Volker: Joined the Treasury Department in 1962; became undersecretary in 1963. Federal Reserve Chairman from 1979 to 1987.
Potential Defense Secretaries: Richard Danzig, Chuck Hagel, former Georgia Sen. Sam Nunn, and former NATO Commander Wesley Clark.
Potential Secretary of Commerce: Harold Ford Jr., congressman from Tennessee from 1997 to 2007.
Potential Secretary of Labor: Dick Gephardt, congressman from Missouri from 1977 to 2005.
Potential Secretary of Transportation: James Oberstar, member of the House of Representatives since 1975.
Potential Secretary of Energy: Ed Markey, member of the House of Representatives since 1976.
Potential Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Max Cleland, administrator for Veterans Affairs from 1977 to 1981, elected to the U.S. Senate in 1996.
Potential National Security Adviser: Susan Rice, member of the National Security Council from 1993 to 1997; assistant Secretary of State from 1997 to 2001.
The more it changes the more it stays the same.
ohio county- Moderator
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For those of you way on the left, William, Sherman, TerryRC, what are your thoughts on so many of the Messiahs potential cabinet members spending more time inside the beltway then out?
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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Begala: 'Rahm a cross between hemorrhoid and toothache'...
Keli- Number of posts : 3608
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http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDVjZmI1NWViOTNkZWMzZDgwZTQ3MjkzMzc0YTAzNTM=
The change we need? President-elect Barack Obama has just named Michigan governor Jennifer Granholm to his 17-member economic advisory panel...With her popularity ratings hovering in the mid-30s, respected state political analyst Bill Ballenger has called her “the worst governor in Michigan history.” Obviously, she has much to teach the president of the United States.
ohio county- Moderator
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She is a democrat. I'm sure the William's of the world will open wide and swallow. God help the rest of us.
Just last year, in the teeth of a gaping budget deficit and galloping unemployment now at 8.7 percent, she raised personal income taxes 17 percent. Her energy legislation passed this year further taxed Michigan ratepayers by hiking their utility bills an estimated 12 percent while gutting Michigan’s energy market deregulation so that major utilities can deal with the coming 10-percent RPS (not to mention modernizing old coal plants in the face of a predicted federal cap-and-trade plan).
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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Well I dont know why he picked her, but I can see why he wanted someone from Michigan.
They are one of the states hardest hit by the economic policies of the past few years.
I suspect part of the strategy for the new economy will involve a major change in the transportation industry.
Especially the auto industry.
And that could conceivably affect Michigan more than anywhere else.
They are one of the states hardest hit by the economic policies of the past few years.
I suspect part of the strategy for the new economy will involve a major change in the transportation industry.
Especially the auto industry.
And that could conceivably affect Michigan more than anywhere else.
sodbuster- Number of posts : 1890
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To which policies do you have reference?
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The biggest thing hurting the auto industry in Michigan Sherman is unions and their labor intensive contracts.
The overall auto industry is thriving as anyone working in Buffalo will tell you. Or at any of their other 10 plants. Or at some of the Hyundai or Honda plants throughtout the United States.
But according to our new WHCOS, it's only because Toyota, Hyundai and Honda are paying the below industry rate of $22.00 per hour to high school graduates to turn bolts and push buttons.
The shame.
The overall auto industry is thriving as anyone working in Buffalo will tell you. Or at any of their other 10 plants. Or at some of the Hyundai or Honda plants throughtout the United States.
But according to our new WHCOS, it's only because Toyota, Hyundai and Honda are paying the below industry rate of $22.00 per hour to high school graduates to turn bolts and push buttons.
The shame.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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Well one of the big ones if not the biggest would be international trade,
We are importing literally boatloads of automobiles while American made vehicles are sitting on the dealer lots.
Another would be policies that allowed for $4 per gallon gasoline and $5 diesel over the past couple years.
Not to mention all the other manufacturing jobs lost in the midwest the past 8 years or so.
We are importing literally boatloads of automobiles while American made vehicles are sitting on the dealer lots.
Another would be policies that allowed for $4 per gallon gasoline and $5 diesel over the past couple years.
Not to mention all the other manufacturing jobs lost in the midwest the past 8 years or so.
sodbuster- Number of posts : 1890
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Sherman, I hate to be the one to tell you this but you don't know WTF you're talking about. Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes and others are not only making automobiles in the US, they're making engines, transmissions, spark plugs and stamping most of the vehicle right here in the US as well.
Meanwhile about all Ford, GM and Chrylser are doing is assembling foreign made parts into automobiles here and because of their union contracts, they're losing billions. The best thing that can happen to all 3 is for them to go out of business so those plants can be used by someone that actually knows how to make a profit off of making cars and doesn't expect the government to bail them out.
Meanwhile about all Ford, GM and Chrylser are doing is assembling foreign made parts into automobiles here and because of their union contracts, they're losing billions. The best thing that can happen to all 3 is for them to go out of business so those plants can be used by someone that actually knows how to make a profit off of making cars and doesn't expect the government to bail them out.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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You mean Toyotas and Hondas? Toyota makes engines in Putnam County, WV. Honda makes cars in Ohio. I bought a Ford that was made in Mexico. Then I had a Dodge that was made in Canada. I wouldn't own a Chevy. People buy cars that work. That's the beauty of the market.
You mean the free market? You couldn't afford to pay for socialism.
The manufacturing jobs in the midwest priced themselves out of the market. They got too greedy.
What policy would you pursue to keep gasoline prices down? Price fixing? You'll insure an inadequate supply. Nobody is going to sell gasoline for less than it costs them to make it.
Maybe once card check legislation comes in you can get all those good-paying jobs back in the midwest. I doubt it.
You mean the free market? You couldn't afford to pay for socialism.
The manufacturing jobs in the midwest priced themselves out of the market. They got too greedy.
What policy would you pursue to keep gasoline prices down? Price fixing? You'll insure an inadequate supply. Nobody is going to sell gasoline for less than it costs them to make it.
Maybe once card check legislation comes in you can get all those good-paying jobs back in the midwest. I doubt it.
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Well as I understand the run-up in gasoline prices had more to do with speculators than supply/demand.
So there should be some way to regullate situations like that and at least dampen the effect.
So there should be some way to regullate situations like that and at least dampen the effect.
sodbuster- Number of posts : 1890
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Well, with all due respect, I think that Ms Granholm's17% tax increase in the middle of Michigan's tank economy might have had more to do with it. That and the fact that the Big Three cannot afford the benefits they granted the UAW in the '60s.
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Aaron wrote:Sherman, I hate to be the one to tell you this but you don't know WTF you're talking about.
That's right. Only Clyde knows anything about anything (and everything about nothing). Right, Clyde?
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"Sherman, I hate to be the one to tell you this but you don't know WTF you're talking about."
Well aaron I readily admit (and have so posted) that I am not an accomplished economist nor have I had much education re economics.
The biggest difference between you and me is I admit to my shortcomings.
And I am willing to learn.
Unlike some.
Well aaron I readily admit (and have so posted) that I am not an accomplished economist nor have I had much education re economics.
The biggest difference between you and me is I admit to my shortcomings.
And I am willing to learn.
Unlike some.
sodbuster- Number of posts : 1890
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ohio county wrote:http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDVjZmI1NWViOTNkZWMzZDgwZTQ3MjkzMzc0YTAzNTM=The change we need? President-elect Barack Obama has just named Michigan governor Jennifer Granholm to his 17-member economic advisory panel...With her popularity ratings hovering in the mid-30s, respected state political analyst Bill Ballenger has called her “the worst governor in Michigan history.” Obviously, she has much to teach the president of the United States.
Ohio, that doesn't surprise me.
I have known a few and heard of several more such "bosses" ..... who absolutely refuse to hire anyone that they think might be smarter and/or more competent than they are.
SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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sodbuster wrote:And I am willing to learn.
Unlike some.
YUP, as long as you are learning from a duly authorized partisan Democrat that has the blessing of the DNC.
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SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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sodbuster wrote:"Sherman, I hate to be the one to tell you this but you don't know WTF you're talking about."
Well aaron I readily admit (and have so posted) that I am not an accomplished economist nor have I had much education re economics.
The biggest difference between you and me is I admit to my shortcomings.
And I am willing to learn.
Unlike some.
I know what you mean Sherman. And I meant what I said with all due respect and I was referring to the automotive industry alone and it was more in a “teasing” type of conversation. At any rate, I shouldn't have said it like that and I apologize for what could easily be misconstrued as being short.
You're a very smart man and I'm sure you are well aware that the automotive industry, outside the big 3 in the Midwest, is thriving as there is cars being assembled with American made engines, transmissions, spark plugs and other parts right here in the good ole USA at American plants utilizing American workers while the big 3 struggle domestically and are forced to make cars in other countries using non-UAW labor just to stay afloat .
I know you know all of that Sherman but since it doesn't fit with your political agenda right now, I understand why you have to ignore these very rudimentary facts.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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Community service will be required?
The 100 hours of community service will result in a $4000 boost to the student. Here is my prediction: colleges will ramp up tuition by $4000 to accept the check.
http://www.change.gov/americaserves
Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.
The 100 hours of community service will result in a $4000 boost to the student. Here is my prediction: colleges will ramp up tuition by $4000 to accept the check.
http://www.change.gov/americaserves
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ohio county wrote:Community service will be required?Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.
The 100 hours of community service will result in a $4000 boost to the student. Here is my prediction: colleges will ramp up tuition by $4000 to accept the check.
http://www.change.gov/americaserves
Let's see, I aveage about at least 100 hours per year going back to 2000 for middle school so I figure they owe me somewhere around $64,000.00. Think I can get back pay?
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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