Re: Change?

by Aaron Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:48 pm

Seems to me Frank and Terry that you guys do the exact same thing to Sam.

by ziggy Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:03 pm

Do you have examples, or are you just hyping?

by Aaron Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:07 pm

I'm merely stating what I know is the truth from posting with you for the past 2 years.

by ziggy Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:36 pm

We knew you didn't have.

by Aaron Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:43 pm

Just as you think you know what you knew, I knew what I know before even I knew it.

by TerryRC Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:16 am

I'm merely stating what I know is the truth from posting with you for the past 2 years.

Oh bullshit, Aaron.

Spend some time perusing the posts. How often does Sam ever go after my arguments? Even when he does, which is rare, it is accompanied by insult.

Then look at my posts, for example, the responses to Sam's post on the fighting in the Congo and his implied assertion that blacks in this country shouldn't be proud of their savage roots. I made a snide comment or two but my arguments were based on verifiable facts, not personal attacks.

I pointed out points that he didn't consider (or chose to ignore) and there was nothing back in response but angry rants and speculations on my drug use. Look for yourself (linky clicky).

Yes, I have attacked Sam back, but always after he bites first.

Too bad the old board isn't around to see the discussions on improper timbering and its effect on flooding went on.

It took about four posts before the attack on my education began.

So you can say whatever B.S. you like. You might even believe it. If you, or anyone else with a bit of integrity, really want the reality of it, you just have to browse past posts.

I shouldn't expect much, though. You have already admitted to baiting people to get them worked up. I suppose I shouldn't hope for much more than an adolescent level of discourse.

by Aaron Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:40 am

Some how when you start one of your rants Terry I get the image of a pot and a kettle in my mind...

by **SheikBen** Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:53 pm

Hi Terry,
Perhaps Palin would have been a better choice after 4 years, perhaps with some better governmental education and help with dealing with the media.

I don't think you are sexist, by the way. I do think you are using a double standard, and I wonder if all of us to some extent are guilty of that.

What I certainly agree with Stephanie on is that Palin gets the based fired up and the base needs to be fired up. Caesar milquetoast "conservatives" like McCain and Bob Dole get edin the polls.

Her choice obviously turned you off to McCain, but my wife voted for him because of her. I didn't vote for him anyway, but Palin did make him look a whole lot better. I think my wife represents more voters (social conservatives voting Republican because of social conservism) than you do (social liberals voting against the Republicans because of social liberalism). The decline of socially liberal Republicans in New England (Chaffee, Shays) is my evidence.

by **Stephanie** Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:00 pm

Letter to the Editor:

I am so tired of NBC speaking ill of Sarah Palin. I will no longer start my morning with the Today Show. The remark made that she was a "hillbilly" was insulting to all women. Most of the attacks on Palin are just plain "sexist"... and, in my opinion, unreliable journalism.

Sarah Palin invigorated us all in this 2008 Election and ignited a movement, attracting tremendous crowds and support. So many of us were hungry for sincerity and authenticity in our office holders and we have found it in her. She connects with real human beings. She provides a new model of women in politics.
The crowds that came to see Sarah reveals the enthusiasm, talent, ingenuity and intellectual prowess of this new movement. Sarah Palin's candidacy provides a foundation on which we can build politically for campaigns to come. There is no doubt, she is a bright political beacon for the future.

Alice Click, Mount Alto, WV 25264

by **SheikBen** Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:51 pm

I have 2 thoughts---

1-NBC today should have been spurned long, long ago. That Alice Click just now figured that out is unfortunate, but better late than never Very Happy

The media proved itself to be a willing liberal shill without even a hint of objectivity.

2-Calling Sarah Palin a hillbilly should be complementary. I've lived with Hillbillies and I've lived with intelligentsia. I have both in my family. Without hesitation, I say this world would be much better off if there were hillbillies and fewer pompous anchors and professors. I speak as someone with two post-graduate degrees, my Master's with a 4.0 from a secular University, and in the employ of two four-year universities. My neighbors contribute many times to this world what I do.

The next time someone calls Palin a hillbilly she should thank them. I'd much rather my kids be hillbillies than assholes like Katie Couric.

by **Stephanie** Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:22 pm

Every now and again some relative or another will ask how I can tolerate living here in WV among all the hillbillies. What a freaking question, I married a hillbilly. Some of my best friends are hillbillies.

I tell them there isn't much difference between a hillbilly and a swamp Yankee. My Poppy was a good old swamp Yankee and decent man who was good to everyone, worked hard all of his life and raised four teenagers alone after the death of the wife he mourned until his own death. I like hillbillies just fine.

btw.....Katie Couric is a wretch, but she left NBC over two years ago to anchor CBS Nightly News or whatever it's called. I haven't been able to stomach her for years.

Reporters tend to be a treacherous bunch, telling you about the car crash with a gleam in their eye and all that. What's worse in sticking cameras and microphones in the faces of people in the midst of tragedy and personal loss. When Katie's husband died leaving her a widow and their children fatherless, Couric pleaded for privacy and her colleagues respected her wishes by and large. When she returned to work, it wasn't too long before she was back to sticking a microphone survivors' faces again.

by **SheikBen** Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:34 pm

HI Steph,

Yes, I knew that Couric had left. I think the network anchors are pretty much the same person in different clothing.

by **Stephanie** Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:06 am

Did you know her replacement is a RI native? So wasn't David Hartman or maybe his name was Phil. I can see him. I think it's David and I think he's actually still alive.

Good grief. RI produces crappy morning news personalities and me.
Embarassed

by TerryRC Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:16 am

Some how when you start one of your rants Terry I get the image of a pot and a kettle in my mind...

Right, Aaron.

I what way was that a rant? Every one of my statements was verifiable and not a personal attack in the post.

You call it a rant so you can dismiss it out of hand.

Lazy and typical.

Of course, Sam is your hero. Why would you be concerned with the truth?

by Aaron Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:18 am

TerryRC wrote: Every one of my statements was verifiable and not a personal attack in the post.

I'm glad you've not gotten personal yet. I appreciate that Terry.

TerryRC wrote:Lazy and typical.

TerryRC wrote:If you, or anyone else with a bit of integrity,...

TerryRC wrote: I suppose I shouldn't hope for much more than an adolescent level of discourse.

by TerryRC Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:38 am

I'm glad you've not gotten personal yet. I appreciate that Terry.

The posts previous to the one you cited.

As to the rest of it, you, yourself admitted that you intentionally bait people and say things you know are untrue for the sole purpose of angering them.

Adolescent and not the actions of someone of integrity.

You have also stated that you don't bother to look at most of the links I reference and that you don't bother to go back and look at old posts.

You also never bother to provide anything but "anecdotal" evidence for your various assertions

Lazy.

It isn't a personal attack when personal actions are germane to the discussion and the truth is being served.

by Aaron Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:00 pm

If that's what you have to tell yourself Terry.

That doesn't change the fact that it takes you all of about 1/2 a post to get personal. It's how you finish every argument.

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