Re: O refuses to accept repayment of TARP money.

by ziggy Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:19 pm

SamCogar wrote:
ziggy wrote: As I have said before, I agree. But as I have also said, not much is going to change in that regard until we change the way election campaigns are financed.

And just how would that affect the Candidates that WV Teachers, School Personnel and their family and relatives vote for?

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Most would probably have opponents with better, more honestly and objectively financed political campaigns than those opponents now have.

by SamCogar Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:35 pm

How about answering my question instead of posting dribble.

by ziggy Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:46 pm

I refer my honorable friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

by Aaron Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:06 pm

Perhaps you're lack of gold stars had nothing to do with religious affiliation and was based solely on your learning disabilities Ziggy. I've already told you why the banks took the money and explained that they tried to give it back and the response of your socialist government both times. Is it really that difficult that you can't understand either?

by ziggy Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:32 pm

Aaron wrote:Perhaps you're lack of gold stars had nothing to do with religious affiliation and was based solely on your learning disabilities Ziggy. I've already told you why the banks took the money and explained that they tried to give it back and the response of your socialist government both times. Is it really that difficult that you can't understand either?

You've told us so, but that does not make it so.

by Aaron Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:01 pm

And your refusal to acknowledge facts do not make them any less facts, especially when they've been documented time and again with the evidence they have.

I'm not so sure that would be classified as a disability. I would think it would be better covered by the fact that you're a blind partisian Marxist who refuses to see any view other then your own.

You really should work on that major character flaw.

by ziggy Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:51 pm

Oh perfect one, heal thyself first.

by Aaron Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:52 pm

If I'm perfect, why do I need to heal myself?

by **Stephanie** Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:03 pm

ziggy wrote:
Stephanie wrote:
ziggy wrote:Of course they don't bite the government hands that feed them, because to do so would mean that they are biting their own hands. The agents of government and the agents of corporations have their hands so deeply plunged into each others pockets that almost no one can tell which pocket is which. And if you think American corporations don't love it that way, then maybe you should think again.

I think the corporations that are profitting from this arrangement love it. Of course they do. You blame "corporations" entirely for this and I do not. At some point the American people must acknowlege the role they have played in this over the course of the past century and the role they continue to play. We continue to elect and reelect the thugs that currently hold office in the House, the Senate and the Oval Office. "We the people" have created this monster and continue to feed it each and every election cycle.

As I have said before, I agree. But as I have also said, not much is going to change in that regard until we change the way election campaigns are financed.

Whether a Ron Paul (your guy) or a Ralph Nader (my guy), the only way they will ever compete against the guys and gals financed by the union PACs and the corporate PACS and the hordes of lobbyists throwing money around Washington DC and state capitals like so much green confetti is to find a way to enable "outside" challengers of the status quo to run campaigns against the "inside the beltway" team on some equitable basis. My suggestion is still to offer public monies for election campaigns to candidates who agree to forego private campaign funding other than perhaps at some nominally small levels.

The public treasuury would be far better off financing political campaigns than it is with the current mechanism of using the public treasury as a back door to re-payment of private campaign contributions dozens or hundred of times over.

But if you can think of a better way to quit feeding the "monster", then, as Ross Perot would say, "I'm all ears".

I'm sorry but I must disagree. Ron Paul didn't lose the primary because he couldn't raise enough money. He lost the race because those in power in Congress, the Fed, Wall Street, the military indusrial complex, so-called law enforcement, and labor stopped at nothing to prevent his success. They marginalized him using popular puppet media personalities like Sean Hannity to do their dirty work.

That isn't to say I think victory would have been a cake walk for him. He is too old, too short, too gaunt and for all of his brilliance is not the best public speaker. We live in a very superficial society and I think those things would to some degree hinder him, but could be overcome.

by SamCogar Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:18 am

ziggy wrote:I refer my honorable friend to the answer I gave some moments ago.

And I will remind you to wipe the dribble and now the slobbers off your billsnipper and answer my question.

You posted an asinine statement ....... so either admit to that fact or prove your accusation by answering the question.

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by SamCogar Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:23 am

ziggy wrote:Oh perfect one, heal thyself first.

There you go again.

Will you also again claim ...... "the worst sex you ever had was still terrific"?

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by SamCogar Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:33 am

Stephanie wrote: They marginalized him using popular puppet media personalities like Sean Hannity to do their dirty work.

Now Steph, compared to the Democrat's "talking heads", ...... Sean Hannity was a Knight in "shining" armour.

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by ziggy Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:15 pm

SamCogar wrote:Will you also again claim ...... "the worst sex you ever had was still terrific"?

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Yeah, but don't tell Ms. Ziggy that. She's still tryin' to out perform that younger gal she caught me with a couple years ago. And as long as she's tryin' to compete, it just gets better and better!

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