Climatologists Claim They Know the Future

Computer models can't accurately predict the weather over the next few weeks. The story excerpted below highlights the failure of the UK Met Office to predict a cooler than normal winter. They predicted the opposite. However, anthropogenic global warming believers would have us believe their simplified climatology model versions of weather prediction software can predict a catastrophic increase in the temperature over the next 100 years. They want us to spend trillions of dollars and do long term damage to the worlds economy based on these unsubstantiated predictions. We would have to be insane to comply with out better proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Keli wrote:Climatologists Claim They Know the Future, But Can't Predict This Winter
Bluegrass Pundit ^ | Sunday, January 3, 2010 | Bluegrass Pundit

Computer models can't accurately predict the weather over the next few weeks. The story excerpted below highlights the failure of the UK Met Office to predict a cooler than normal winter. They predicted the opposite. However, anthropogenic global warming believers would have us believe their simplified climatology model versions of weather prediction software can predict a catastrophic increase in the temperature over the next 100 years. They want us to spend trillions of dollars and do long term damage to the worlds economy based on these unsubstantiated predictions. We would have to be insane to comply with out better proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

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SheikBen wrote:It's fargin' cold here. We got down to -11 last night. Thank God Al Gore is doing something about the heat.......

Of course, local weather does not a climate make.

TerryRC wrote:
BTW, as the Arctic ice melts, the freshwater floats on the salt water for a while and puts pressure on it, reducing the ability of the Gulf Stream to carry heat.

SheikBen wrote:It's fargin' cold here. We got down to -11 last night. Thank God Al Gore is doing something about the heat.......

last night it was funny a state police was running back and forth with the wrecks and he just finished with one and the dispachter came on to send him to another and he said "i have one question where the hell is this global warming that they are all talking about"

TerryRC wrote:GOOD GRIEF, youse musta been bitten too many times by a Crazy Bug ..... I mean Lady Bug.

It is well documented, Sam.

The fresh water floats on the Gulf Stream, pinching the current and reducing the flow.

Recent evidence suggests that the a reduced flow contributed to the "Little Ice Age" (linky clicky).

As it travels north, the warm water transported by the Gulf Stream undergoes evaporative cooling. The cooling is wind driven: wind moving over the water cools it and also causes evaporation, leaving a saltier brine. In this process, the water increases in salinity and density, and decreases in temperature. Once sea ice forms, salts are left out of the ice, a process known as brine exclusion.[17] These two processes produce water that is denser and colder (or, more precisely, water that is still liquid at a lower temperature). In the North Atlantic Ocean, the water becomes so dense that it begins to sink down through less salty and less dense water. (The convective action is not unlike that of a lava lamp.) This downdraft of heavy, cold and dense water becomes a part of the North Atlantic Deep Water, a southgoing stream.[18] Very little seaweed lies within the current, although seaweed lies in clusters to its east.[19]

During the month of November 2004, the Gulf Stream was said to have stopped for ten days.[20] Scientists were puzzled by this behavior. Scientist Harry Bryden of the National Oceanography Center, declares, "We'd never seen anything like that before and we don't understand it. We didn't know it could happen." [20] Lloyd Keigwin, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution described the event as "the most abrupt change in the whole [climate] record". Kiegwin adds, ""It only lasted 10 days. But suppose it lasted 30 or 60 days? ... How can we rule out a longer one next year?".[20] However, the whole affair was the result of measurements showing that the meridional overturning circulation actually seemed to have slowed for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream

TerryRC wrote:BTW, as the Arctic ice melts, the freshwater floats on the salt water for a while and puts pressure on it, reducing the ability of the Gulf Stream to carry heat.

TerryRC wrote:Silly man, its da freezing of the water not da melting of the ice that drives the Gulf Stream's transporting of heat energy.

I never claimed the melting of the ice drives the Gulf, you chucklehead. I said shocks of fresh water interfered with it.

I thought it was the fresh water floating on the saltwater current. I was mistaken, it is the fresh water DILUTING the salt water current. Still, the source and the result is the same: colder weather in W. Europe and NE USA.

Da Gulf Stream isa being pulled, ....... not pushed.

And it looks as if is being interfered with by meltwater.

Nobody is clear on what has gone wrong. Suggestions for blame include the melting of sea ice or increased flow from Siberian rivers into the Arctic. Both would load fresh water into the surface ocean, making it less dense and so preventing it from sinking, which in turn would slow the flow of tropical water from the south

(Linky)

I wanted to point out this from the article:

Though unseasonably cold weather last month briefly blanketed parts of the UK in snow, average European temperatures have been rising, Wood says.

So, got any more drivel about how fresh water can't interfere with the Gulf Stream?

Melt water apparently CAN affect the Gulf's ability to carry heat.