Muslim bus drivers refuse to let guide dogs on board

[Keli]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1295749/Muslim-bus-drivers-refuse-let-guide-dogs-board.html

Blind passengers are being ordered off buses or refused taxi rides because Muslim drivers or passengers object to their ‘unclean’ guide dogs.

One pensioner, a cancer sufferer, told how had twice been confronted by drivers and asked to get off the bus because of his guide dog, and had also faced hostility at a hospital and in a supermarket over the animal.

The problem to carry guide dogs on religious grounds has become so widespread that the matter was raised in the House of Lords last week, prompting transport minister Norman Baker to warn that a religious objection was not a reason to eject a passenger with a well-behaved guide dog.

While drivers can use their discretion to refuse to carry non-disabled passengers with dogs, they are compelled to accept guide dogs under disability discrimination law.

Yesterday both the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association and the National Federation of the Blind confirmed the problem was common, and, according to the latter organisation was ‘getting worse’.

The tension stems from a strand of Islamic teaching which warns against contact with dogs because the animal’s saliva was considered to be impure, the Muslim Council of Britain said.

It urged Muslims to show tolerance and common sense over the issue.

Good luck on the tolerance and common sense thingy. Seems to me that the only thing that a Muslim bus driver can do is honor kill the dog or drive the crowded bus into a building; but, Allah forbid we offend the Muslim sensitivities.

[Ich bin Ala-awkbarph]

Here is a little test of your magnanimous nature: what if the headline read, "Christian bus drivers refuse to allow burqa clad women board?"

[SheikBen]

There would be daily condemnations by the Obama administration, Ziggy, Pepsi, and new classes in "Christian intolerance" would be offered at Illinois State University.

[Cato]

There would be daily condemnations by the Obama administration, Ziggy, Pepsi, and new classes in "Christian intolerance" would be offered at Illinois State University.

I'm finding more and more that people are getting fed up with being tolerant of muslims, homosexuals, illegals, blacks, and the like and then being crapped on by these very same people. Then on top of that being belittled and condemned for not being tolerant enough both by these groups, academia, and then by those who are suppose to represent us.

[Stephanie]

Do you really see so few problems here, in the USA, that you have to go borrowing trouble from what GB decides to do about taxi drivers not obeying their laws? Let their leaders and their citizens decide how to best deal with that there. If it were to happen here, I would suggest the taxi drivers be fined for a first offense, and have their license suspended for a second offense.

[Ich bin Ala-awkbarph]

Do you really see so few problems here, in the USA, that you have to go borrowing trouble from what GB decides to do about taxi drivers not obeying their laws? Let their leaders and their citizens decide how to best deal with that there. If it were to happen here, I would suggest the taxi drivers be fined for a first offense, and have their license suspended for a second offense.

This is GB situation is pertinent for two reasons: Muslim taxi drivers have refused to pick up fares at the airport in (Miineapolois?) who are carrying bottles of booze; and, because of the double standard of people toward religious people who do not want to sell or provide abortion prescriptions or take part in abortions at the hospital or clinic where they work.

[Cato]

Do you really see so few problems here, in the USA, that you have to go borrowing trouble from what GB decides to do about taxi drivers not obeying their laws? Let their leaders and their citizens decide how to best deal with that there. If it were to happen here, I would suggest the taxi drivers be fined for a first offense, and have their license suspended for a second offense.

Here in the good ol' USA it may not be as blatant but it is bad enough and getting worse everyday. In fact you've seen quite an example of the so called tolerance mindset right here on this board. Need I remind you of the rounds Ziggy, Terry. and I have had over my choosing not to rent to homosexual couples.

Let me take this further with you. Last tax year my wife and I paid enough in federal taxes alone to send our son to college for a year and a half. We could ahve paid all his expenses, from the total cost of college to his room and board and transportation. We could have even provided some spending money. However, we paid the money to the jerks in DC so they could pass it out to every peice of perverted and useless garbage that comes down the pike. While our kid borrowed the money to go to school the politicans were doling the money my wife and I worked for to useless trash, illegals, and baby factories or sending it over seas to countries where the people hate our guts.

Let's go even further. Some years ago one or our kids graduated in the top 5% of thier graduating class. Their math skills exceeded those of kids graduating from northern Virginia when they placement test at JMU in the math department. WVU offered $500 at semester to attend there. Our kid chose to attend JMU instead, since it was the better school, and major in math. At the same time a black girl in the same class who wasn't in the top 5% of the class received a FREE RIDE to WVU because of being a minority, I guess. She lasted all of 6 weeks. She came home and sat on her black butt, doing nothing.

This morning I was helping a contractor of ours send some pictures by email. We got to talking about this very thing. He hit the nail on the head when he pointed to his arm and said this is the color of the American taxpayer. We have what we labor for taken to give to perverts, baby factories, and people who come here illegally, simply to buy votes for some of the lowest scum to ever beath air.

You may say this is different than in Britain, but I say you are wrong. It is exactly the same mindset. It is the mindset, that we must bow down to perverts, criminals, the worthless, those that hate us, and the like. We have a class of people in this nation who come here or are born here with the mindset we must bow to them and we owe them. We must give in to their lifestyle and accept it and they have the right to force it upon us.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of it. I'm neither owed nor do I owe anyone anything. I will not bow down to any muslim or other religion including humanists. I will not forfeit my valuses to appease homosexuals or anyonelse for that matter. I also believe very much in the old value of if you don't work, you don't eat.

[ziggy]

There would be daily condemnations by the Obama administration, Ziggy, Pepsi, and new classes in "Christian intolerance" would be offered at Illinois State University.

Ziggy?

As ole' Johnny Cash use to sing:

I went to sleep in Kansas City
And woke up in Abelene
Wonderin' why the hell I'm wanted
At some town half-way between

[SheikBen]

love ya, zig, just being ornery

[ziggy]

love ya, zig, just being ornery

That's OK. It gave me an excuse to try to be funny.

[ziggy]

I also believe very much in the old value of if you don't work, you don't eat.

So in today's managed minimum 5 percent unemployment economy, you believe that 5 percent of the people should starve to death.

[Aaron]

I also believe very much in the old value of if you don't work, you don't eat.

So in today's managed minimum 5 percent unemployment economy, you believe that 5 percent of the people should starve to death.

I don't know about Cato but I have no problem with that as I think your theory of a managed economy is tripe.

[Cato]

I also believe very much in the old value of if you don't work, you don't eat.

So in today's managed minimum 5 percent unemployment economy, you believe that 5 percent of the people should starve to death.

I have to agree with Aaron that your so called theory of of managed 5 percent unemployment is little more than more common barnyard material, in other words, BS.

[Aaron]

I am curious though Ziggy, under what guise should I or anyone else be responsible for anothers food? Why is it someone elses responsibility to make sure anyone other then those they are responsible for bringing into this world eat?

[TerryRC]

This is GB situation is pertinent for two reasons: Muslim taxi drivers have refused to pick up fares at the airport in (Miineapolois?) who are carrying bottles of booze; and, because of the double standard of people toward religious people who do not want to sell or provide abortion prescriptions or take part in abortions at the hospital or clinic where they work.

Well, I'll bet you support the right of pharmacists to refuse to sell the morning after pill.

Can't have it both ways, preacher.

Personally I think the bus driver AND the pharmacist should look for a new line of work.

[Cato]

This is GB situation is pertinent for two reasons: Muslim taxi drivers have refused to pick up fares at the airport in (Miineapolois?) who are carrying bottles of booze; and, because of the double standard of people toward religious people who do not want to sell or provide abortion prescriptions or take part in abortions at the hospital or clinic where they work.

Well, I'll bet you support the right of pharmacists to refuse to sell the morning after pill.

Can't have it both ways, preacher.

Personally I think the bus driver AND the pharmacist should look for a new line of work.

I thought you believed in liberty and the right of one to determine their own destiny. I guess I thought wrong, silly me

[TerryRC]

I thought you believed in liberty and the right of one to determine their own destiny. I guess I thought wrong, silly me

If you won't do the job you were hired for, you should be fired.

Here I thought you believed in capitalism and hard work. Silly me.

[ziggy]

I also believe very much in the old value of if you don't work, you don't eat.

So in today's managed minimum 5 percent unemployment economy, you believe that 5 percent of the people should starve to death.

I have to agree with Aaron that your so called theory of of managed 5 percent unemployment is little more than more common barnyard material, in other words, BS.

When economists and their obedient media lapdogs call a 5 percent unemployment "full employment", it is their BS, not mine.

[Stephanie]

I thought you believed in liberty and the right of one to determine their own destiny. I guess I thought wrong, silly me

If you won't do the job you were hired for, you should be fired.

Here I thought you believed in capitalism and hard work. Silly me.

Wouldn't that be up to the employer, Terry? Don't business owners have any rights any more?

[ziggy]

I am curious though Ziggy, under what guise should I or anyone else be responsible for anothers food? Why is it someone elses responsibility to make sure anyone other then those they are responsible for bringing into this world eat?

When a society allows its economy to be manipulated to assure a 5 percent or higher unemployment rate, that society owes that unemployed segment some minimum level of survival "welfare".

[Aaron]

I am curious though Ziggy, under what guise should I or anyone else be responsible for anothers food? Why is it someone elses responsibility to make sure anyone other then those they are responsible for bringing into this world eat?

When a society allows its economy to be manipulated to assure a 5 percent or higher unemployment rate, that society owes that unemployed segment some minimum level of survival "welfare".

Were our economy manipulated to assure a 5 percent or higher unemployment rate, you might have a point.

As it is not, you don't.

[TerryRC]

Wouldn't that be up to the employer, Terry? Don't business owners have any rights any more?

Where did I imply any differently?

I thought it obvious that it would be the employer firing the employee that refuses to do their job.

Of course the next scream would be about religious discrimination.

Keli thinks that the christian pharmacist SHOULD be able to refuse to do his job. He thinks the muslim taxi drivers that refuse to do theirs should be executed.

No, he hasn't said that, but I think we know the score.

If he supports the pharmacist that won't fill a prescription, he needs to support the taxi driver that won't pick up people with dogs.

Me, I support neither. People that shirk their duties should have those duties taken away.

[Ich bin Ala-awkbarph]

Me, I support neither. People that shirk their duties should have those duties taken away.

Aren't you a teacher?

[SheikBen]

Wouldn't that be up to the employer, Terry? Don't business owners have any rights any more?

Where did I imply any differently?

I thought it obvious that it would be the employer firing the employee that refuses to do their job.

Of course the next scream would be about religious discrimination.

Keli thinks that the christian pharmacist SHOULD be able to refuse to do his job. He thinks the muslim taxi drivers that refuse to do theirs should be executed.

No, he hasn't said that, but I think we know the score.

If he supports the pharmacist that won't fill a prescription, he needs to support the taxi driver that won't pick up people with dogs.

Me, I support neither. People that shirk their duties should have those duties taken away.

If taxi drivers are not employees of the state or regional government, if they are willing to put signs on their cabs stating that they will not carry alcohol or guide dogs, I'm OK with their right to do so.

Similarly, a pharmacist who puts up signage that states that he/she will not dispense abortifacients or birth control should be given the right to do so. If folks need birth control so badly, perhaps the feminists would do well to open up or fund a more liberal pharmacy nearby.

[Cato]

I thought you believed in liberty and the right of one to determine their own destiny. I guess I thought wrong, silly me

If you won't do the job you were hired for, you should be fired.

Here I thought you believed in capitalism and hard work. Silly me.

I have something you both you and Ziggy lack, guiding principles. I make it very clear there are things I won't do or be involved in. If that isn't satisfactory to my employer he/she doesn't need to hire me.

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