Chris Matthews is birther?

ohio county wrote:Does she have an ambition to be President of the United States?

Would you think it excessive if someone demanded her original birth certificate if she did?

ziggy wrote:My wife was unable to get the "original document" of her birth in Putnam County, West Virginia. But she does have a certificate from the Putnam County Clerk that says the birth records of that county show that she was born on such and such date to such and such parents.

Does the fact that she could not get the "original document" mean that her status as a U.S. citizen is significantly doubtful?

Aaron wrote:

ziggy wrote:My wife was unable to get the "original document" of her birth in Putnam County, West Virginia. But she does have a certificate from the Putnam County Clerk that says the birth records of that county show that she was born on such and such date to such and such parents.

Does the fact that she could not get the "original document" mean that her status as a U.S. citizen is significantly doubtful?

Her document from Putnam County Clerk is worthless as well but then you know that. This is just more of your word games.

Short forms:

Short forms, known sometimes as computer certifications, are not universally available, but are less expensive and more readily accessible. Information is taken from the original birth record (the long form) and stored in a database that can be accessed quickly when birth certificates are needed in a short amount of time.[citation needed] Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as "Certification of Birth", "Certification of Live Birth", or "Certificate of Birth Registration."[citation needed] The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances.[22] Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels.[24

§16-5-26. Reproduction and preservation of records.
To preserve vital records and other original documents, the State Registrar is authorized to prepare typewritten, photographic, electronic, or other reproductions of certificates or reports and files in the section of vital statistics. When verified and approved by the State Registrar, the reproductions shall be accepted as the original records, and the documents from which permanent reproductions have been made may be disposed of as provided by legislative rule or other provisions of state law.

http://www.legis.state.wv.us/WVCODE/Code.cfm?chap=16&art=5#05

ziggy wrote:My wife was unable to get the "original document" of her birth in Putnam County, West Virginia.

SamCogar wrote:

ziggy wrote:My wife was unable to get the "original document" of her birth in Putnam County, West Virginia.

I would think there are numerous wives that are unable to get the "original document" of their birth ......... probably because County Clerks, etc. don't very often give original documents away.

§16-5-28. Copies from the system of vital statistics.


(b) All forms and procedures used in the issuance of certified copies of vital records in the state shall be approved by the State Registrar. All certified copies of certificates of birth issued shall have security features that deter the document from being altered, counterfeited, duplicated or simulated without ready detection in compliance with regulations issued by the federal government.

Aaron wrote:

SamCogar wrote:

ziggy wrote:My wife was unable to get the "original document" of her birth in Putnam County, West Virginia.

I would think there are numerous wives that are unable to get the "original document" of their birth ......... probably because County Clerks, etc. don't very often give original documents away.

Even if they gave you a copy Sam, it would be worthless. All birth certificates for any official act such as a passport, drivers license, school enrollment and even little league All Stars requires a state issued raised seal birth certificate from vital statistics. Ziggy's comment is just another asinine attempt by him to distract from the conversation.

So those county copies are indeed worthless save for personal use.

ziggy wrote:I agree with Aaron

Aaron wrote:And if you say they accepted a county issued birth certificate and did not require a vital statistics issued one, I'd say, using your words, your a goddamn liar.

ziggy wrote:I agree with Aaron

ziggy wrote:

So those county copies are indeed worthless save for personal use.

Yet it is that county copy issued "original document" that Keli and OC demand of Barack Obama. Why would they demand a worthless document?