Question?

Is a US President instigating the downfall of an ally a treasonous and impeachable offense?

Ich bin Ala-awkbarf! wrote:Is a US President instigating the downfall of an ally a treasonous and impeachable offense?

Saddam Hussein was an ally for decades, too.

SO, you are saying yes--the POTUS should be impeached?

Keli,

The President desperately needs a "win." This ain't the place for it!

But, no, this isn't impeachable. It is reason #35,506 that I will not be voting for him in 2012!

The President desperately needs a "win." This ain't the place for it!

Right, but it sure as hell was when Bush was POTUS.

"Nipping it in the bud" is sure as hell a lot better than "throwing gasoline on it" after the fire erupted.

Do any of you remember what I was telling you the "real reason" was for the US invasion of Iraq?

Do any of you remember that I was telling you it was not a good thing for the partisan Democrats to side with the terrorists and Saddam partisans to insure a defeat of George Bush's invasion?

Do any of you remember what I was telling you about the Middle East erupting in "flames"?

Do any of you remember what I was telling you would happen iffen the Middle East oil supply was abrupty terminated?

Are any of you going to remember telling me that I was full of shit for telling you all those wild things?

I seriously doubt it. You'll just pretend its all about something new that just happened.

I don't know what Sam is talking about, now there's a surprise.

I do wish those people so fearful of the Egyptians who peacefully demonstrated for a week would pay very close attention to the events of the past 30 hours or so and what unfolds next. Pay especially close attention to what the government run Egyptian media is saying, and what the pro-Mubarak faction are doing and saying.

Who is saying they hate America? Who is professing hatred of Americans? Who is threatening, even harming international journalists? Where did these people come from? Who are they and who sent them?

Ally my ass.

ziggy wrote:

Ich bin Ala-awkbarf! wrote:Is a US President instigating the downfall of an ally a treasonous and impeachable offense?

Saddam Hussein was an ally for decades, too.

Sam is talking about oil Stephanie. That is what the invasion of Iraq was all about and given that Sadaam Hussein was negotiating with the French and Russians to trade oil for nuclear power, some believe we were correct in going in. Others think that because Iraq's oil infrastructure was so dilapidated that we were justified in going in. Oil is also the reason we are still in Afghanistan and why President Obama has quadrupled our troops in that country despite there being less then 100 known terrorist in that country.

Personally, I disagree with our intervention into those countries. I think we should pull out all of our resources from the Middle East and IF we need oil, they will sell it to us. It may be higher in the short term but long term, our disengagement from that area will result in those who want to sell oil overthrowing those who do not but if it doesn’t, it simply means it will not come to the market.

If that is what those individuals choose, that is their right as it is their natural resources, not ours. What we as a nation should do is become more self sufficient. We have plenty of natural resources without having to forcefully take others.

Instead of managing and utilizing our own natural resources, just as with manufacturing, we have allowed liberals and environmentalist to destroy that segment of our society and ship it overseas and turn America into a service country.

And people wonder why this country is failing as miserably as it is.

Why didn't the POTUS, Obamessiah, call for a transition in Iran when there were democratic political protests in 2008 and 2010?

If I'm not mistaken (and I rarely am) I believe GWB was President in 2008.

Aaron wrote:If I'm not mistaken (and I rarely am) I believe GWB was President in 2008.

You are correct. Obama was Senator at that time. However, he was still god.

I though he was still a high priestess in 08.

I think we should pull out all of our resources from the Middle East and IF we need oil, they will sell it to us.

Now that was a "blue sky dream" iffen there ever was one.

Me thinks a 15 year old would have more luck at buying a pint of whiskey with a Liquor Inspector looking over his shoulder at the Clerk he's trying to get to sell it to him.

Sam, that may be a bit of a blue sky dream, but I'll tell you what I think is more realistic.

I think if we disengaged from the Middle East, some of those countries may sell us some oil and we'd get more from other sources, including the good old USA. I think we'd open more refineries and there would be more off-shore drilling and maybe that immense oil field they discovered out there in the Dakotas would be tapped because we'd need it.

I'm also certain that if our nation invested the money saved by withdrawing our armed forces from that region of the world into research and development for reliable, clean, renewable AMERICAN energy success would come PDQ because necessity is the mother of invention and being flush with cash for R&D would speed things right on along. Kind of like your anti-biotic scenario in another thread.