Re: The Tea Party vs. NPR

by Aaron Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:01 am

You left out that she has a great rack (she's no Hillary) for a middle aged woman Stephanie but all things considering, you were spot on.

Very Happy

by Cato Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:03 pm

Stephanie wrote:Earmarks would not be an issue if government operated within the framework of the Constitution. It does not.

Oh, to step into the great Sarah Palin debate, or not to step into the great Sarah Palin debate?

I think Sarah Palin is like a lot of politicians. She started out with good intentions. She still has good intentions, but her meteoric rise has corrupted her.

Like the rest of us, Mrs. Palin is human. In general I like her, but I don't want her for my President because she not only doesn't have a problem with interferring in the operations of other sovereign nations, she encourages it. She obviously believes that her religion has a place in OUR government and it has none.

I like Sarah Palin better when she was the Governor of Alaska. She was a public servant then. Now, she's some sort of opportunistic political animal, imho. This became crystal clear to me just about a week ago when I saw her on Judge Napolitano's show. I forget the name of it, I don't typically watch the Judge. I like his politics, but he yells too much.

Anyway, so she's on libertarian Judge Napolitano's show and she tells him how much she loves Rand & Ron Paul. Now, I consider that pandering. She wouldn't say that on O'Reilly's show, she wouldn't say that to Sean Hannity and his minions, she made sure she said it on a broadcast with a viewership that loves the Pauls.

I do give her a lot of credit for not going postal on the likes of that foul-mouthed, no-class, red-headed loser who regularly targets Palin's family. You know who I'm talking about, Kathy what's her name. She recently said she was going after Willow. Give me a break.

I remember when Obama first took office the Mrs. having a cow because some company was going to sell Sasha and Malia dolls. Can you imagine what would happen if Dennis Miller announced he had put a bullseye on Malia's head for the year?

OK, so I stepped in the great Sarah Palin debate. My $0.02

Alot of what say is definately on the mark. I guess the saying absolute power corrupts absolutely is very true. Like you said she is human and she rose up the ladder in a hurry. I really believe she lost sight of what she stood for and who she was. Whether that is her fault of the people that advise her I don't know, I just wish she had remained true to her original convictions.

I really wish someone would run for the presidency that had was true to the founding principles of this nation and had the spine and conviction to stand up for those convictions. Right now, I don't see anyone that even comes close to meeting those attributes.

by SamCogar Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:27 pm

Stephanie wrote:Like the rest of us, Mrs. Palin is human. In general I like her, but I don't want her for my President because she not only doesn't have a problem with interferring in the operations of other sovereign nations, she encourages it.

She obviously believes that her religion has a place in OUR government and it has none.

I don't recall ever hearing her state or imply either.

Stephanie wrote:Anyway, so she's on libertarian Judge Napolitano's show and she tells him how much she loves Rand & Ron Paul. Now, I consider that pandering.

I'm sure that you have stated the same thing several times, ....... were you pandering?

by **Stephanie** Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:39 pm

Let me see what I can come up with for quotes that prove my assertions, Sam. When I find a few I'll come back and post them.

In the meanwhile. I tell everybody how much I admire and respect Congressman Paul and my admiration and respect for his Senator son grows daily. I don't tell that little factoid to a target audience. I use Ron Paul quotes as signature lines and list them as my favorite quotes on FB. I campaigned for him. I hope to do so again in the very near future.

When I hear Sarah Palin tell Sean Hannity and/or Bill O'Reilly and their viewing audiences how much she loves the Pauls, I will take print off this page and eat it. I'll drive up to Burnsville so you can memorialize the event and post it on You Tube.

by Aaron Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:57 pm

SamCogar wrote:
Stephanie wrote:Like the rest of us, Mrs. Palin is human. In general I like her, but I don't want her for my President because she not only doesn't have a problem with interferring in the operations of other sovereign nations, she encourages it.

She obviously believes that her religion has a place in OUR government and it has none.

I don't recall ever hearing her state or imply either.

Often times, we don't hear what we wish not to hear. That response reminds me of a parent with a child who can do no wrong.

For the record though, Palin stated...

"Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant -- they're quite clear -- that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments."

Source

While I realize the source is Huffington Post Sammy, if you pull your head out of where you got it long enough and view the post, you will see the interview with O'Rilley at the bottom of the page.

The words are hers and she's clearly wrong as you have pointed out time and again but you will still refuse to admit the truth because of the rose colored glasses you got on when the subject is the governor who quit.

by SamCogar Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:19 am

For the record though, Palin stated...

"Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant -- they're quite clear -- that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments."

And for the record also, there are literally MILLIONS of US citizens that have been nurtured by their parents and/or guardians to think and believe that the United States of America was founded on Biblical Christian principles and the Ten Commandments.

As a matter of fact there have been dozens of arguments on this very Forum concerning the subject of "founding principles".

And ignorant dumbshits who are prone to executing devious, dastardly, dishonest acts and who are determined to defame and/or destroy anyone they dislike or disagree with ...... will interpret whatever they see, hear or read to mean whatever best suits their agenda without regard or concern as to whether their interpretation is truth, fiction or an outright lie. Their only concern is in achieving their desired results.

Case in point, the dumbasses’s interpretation of the phrase “based on” in the above quote. Because of their tunnel-vision and limited mentality the only words they “see” in the above quote are: create law, …… based on, …. God, ….. bible, ….and …… ten commandments” …… and then their devious thinking “fills in” the appropriate wording to make the quote say whatever it is they want it to say. And once they do that, no one can convince them otherwise, because that is how they "see it” in their mind. Even if they read the actual quote 100 more times, they will still “see it” the way they paraphrased it in their mind.

In that Sarah Palin SPECIFICALLY stated in her above quote to: "Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant”, …… why would anyone but a devious minded delinquent or a learning disabled numbskull think that Palin had intentions of doing anything contrary to what our founders did or what our founding documents stipulated?

It should be quite obvious to anyone that Palin ascribes to what our founders did and what our founding documents stipulate ........ an thus it is immaterial what she believes the aforesaid was based on.

And apparently the devious minded dumbshits don’t realize that the stated Ten Commandments and all Biblical/Christian principles and Laws are all ….. based on ….. legal documents that were written hundreds of years before the Bible was ever thought of.

by Aaron Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:28 am

You said you had never seen statments that led you to believe Palin wants to see religion in our government and when offered proof of just that, instead of admitting the truth, Palin is a right wing religious neo-con whacko who wants to put religion in government, you launch into a rant that by the time you were finished, I'll bet you didn't even know what you were saying.

I'm starting to think you can't be taken seriously Sam.

by SamCogar Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:27 am

I'm starting to think .......

I'm positive that is an impossibility.

by Aaron Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:45 pm

Will any of this thinking you're starting to do Sam aid you in answering simple questions like who the visionaries are that have us occupying two countries by lying to the American public or will it help you in viewing the video of Sarah Palin and understanding that religion in government is exactly what she desires?

by SamCogar Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:54 am

.... in viewing the video of Sarah Palin and understanding ..... exactly what she desires?

Any divorced male whose wife was the one to move out years ago and he has since been living alone, ……. with a male dog, ….. should not be claiming or implying that he knows exactly what a female desires.

Contrary to what a lot of people’s opinion is about themselves, ….. it doesn’t require vision or any critical thinking abilities for one to be a great mimicker of sports statistics.

Visionaries are concerned with determining future events, ...... mimickers are relegated to re-hashing past events.

Personally, I would rather watch paint dry ......... than to sit around on my arse trying to out-mimic someone else and then hafta engage in a "repeat performance" when the next season begins. Me thinks counting ants crawling on the sidewalks would be a more productive exercise. Razz

by **Stephanie** Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:14 am

Hey Sam, were you going to just let me off the hook?

I forgot about this thread, but when I did spend a few minutes looking, I could find no direct quote by Palin that clearly indicates she encourages interferring with the internal operations of another sovereign nation since her days as John McCain's running mate.

As a matter of fact, by the time I was done reading I liked her more than when I had begun. I have been pondering since why it is I have such reservations about her when it comes to foreign policy and I think it may be a combination of factors including her association with McCain, statements she made as his running mate, my concern logic would fly out the window for her where Israel is concerned, and my belief her continued political career is not good for her children.

Don't bite my head off. What's best for her family is none of my business, I know. And......my fear she would place Israeli interests over that of America's interests is based almost entirely on the actions and positions of other politicians with similiar religious views.

by SamCogar Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:17 am

Stephanie wrote:Hey Sam, were you going to just let me off the hook?

HA, you were not on any hook. I know how you think and what your priorities are.

When you get too far from the "big picture" I try to reel you back in a wee bit.

Steph, now one can only be nice to those Muslims for so long, and then ya hafta, to wit:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/15/video-the-bully-body-slam/

by Aaron Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:54 am

SamCogar wrote:
.... in viewing the video of Sarah Palin and understanding ..... exactly what she desires?

Any divorced male whose wife was the one to move out years ago and he has since been living alone, ……. with a male dog, ….. should not be claiming or implying that he knows exactly what a female desires.

Two dogs and I raised 4 boys, more man then most will ever be, especailly those with multiple failed marriages but then that's what happens when a MAN can live on his own and doesn't need to go find a new mommy figure everytime the last one leaves him.[/quote]

by ziggy Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:21 am

Steph, now one can only be nice to those Muslims for so long, and then ya hafta, to wit:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/15/video-the-bully-body-slam/

That is a two-way street. And Muslims can only be nice to (tolerate) the meddlings of those "Christian" Americans for so long. Then they hafta:

The Tea Party vs. NPR - Page 3 9-11%20attacks

The Tea Party vs. NPR - Page 3 9-11%20attacks

by SamCogar Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:27 pm

ziggy wrote:That is a two-way street. And Muslims can only be nice to (tolerate) the meddlings of those "Christian" Americans for so long. Then they hafta:

HA, the Muslims have a history, dating back to the 6th Century, of doing that to infidels anywhere they can find them ......... so cancel that silly idea you have that Americans are a "special group of infidels".

And SURPRISE, SURPRISE, ....... they are still doing it, even to themselves, here in the 21st Century, to wit:

The Tea Party vs. NPR - Page 3 4f378_t1larg.libya.fighting.gi

Ras Lanuf, Libya (CNN) — The military forces of Moammar Gadhafi on Friday pounded Ras Lanuf, the key oil port once in the hands of rebel forces, with its leadership confidently vowing to retake all territory from the opposition despite growing international pressure.
http://www.ifastfwd.info/blog/world-news/headline-news/libya-forces-pound-key-oil-port

by Aaron Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:06 pm

ziggy wrote:
Steph, now one can only be nice to those Muslims for so long, and then ya hafta, to wit:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/15/video-the-bully-body-slam/

That is a two-way street. And Muslims can only be nice to (tolerate) the meddlings of those "Christian" Americans for so long. Then they hafta:

So are you excusing or justifying those actions?

by **SheikBen** Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:37 pm

Yeah, Zig, not sure where you are goin with this, but can't imagine anywhere good.

by SamCogar Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:21 am

And SURPRISE, SURPRISE, ....... Ziggy, .... the Muslims don't like the Jews either.

Hamas fires dozens of mortars at Israel

JERUSALEM – Palestinian militants in Gaza fired more than 50 mortar shells into Israel on Saturday, the heaviest barrage in two years, Israeli officials said, raising the prospect of a new Mideast flareup.

Also Saturday, Hamas police beat reporters and news photographers covering a rally in Gaza City, drawing a stiff condemnation from the reporters' association.

Israel invaded Gaza two years ago to put a stop to daily rocket barrages by Gaza militants, and Saturday's exchange showed how the conflict could quickly spiral out of control. Gaza's Hamas rulers are thought to be trying to avoid another Israeli invasion, after the last one caused widespread damage, killed more than 1,400 and left the territory under blockade, but Hamas claimed responsibility for some of the mortar rounds.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/19/hamas-fires-dozens-rockets-israel/?test=latestnews

by Aaron Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:21 am

I talked to an Israli citizen last night at Thomas Hospital and his thoughts were that the United States would be well served of pulling out of the Middle East.

As he put it, these are our problems and the last thing we need is to be told what to do by an arrogant government who doesn't know what the problems are and don't know which side to stand with.

It's all about oil and as he said, those who have oil will sell it. If they don't, someone will run them off and then they will sell it and all the United States is doing is creating ill will, making things worse and driving up the price of oil.

It's time to stop our occupation of two nations for oil and bring all of our troops home regardless of what visionaries tell us to do.

by ziggy Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:53 pm

Aaron wrote:
ziggy wrote:
Steph, now one can only be nice to those Muslims for so long, and then ya hafta, to wit:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/15/video-the-bully-body-slam/

That is a two-way street. And Muslims can only be nice to (tolerate) the meddlings of those "Christian" Americans for so long. Then they hafta:

So are you excusing or justifying those actions?

No. But I am saying that American actions have natural consequences.

One principle of physics is that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. It's the same way in human relations. It has nothing to do with "excusing of justifying" anything. Actions have consequences- and those consequences are not always what we would like them to be.

by ziggy Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:55 pm

SheikBen wrote:Yeah, Zig, not sure where you are goin with this, but can't imagine anywhere good.

Is it not good to point out that American actions have consequences- and especially unpleasant ones?

by **Stephanie** Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:14 pm

Ziggy has it right. Actions have consequences. Military actions often have unintended consequences.

Sam, all those crazy Muslims are killing so many more of American infidels over there than they ever could over here.

by Aaron Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:14 pm

I don't recall Americans crashing planes in buildings and doing billions in damage so it's hardly equal or opposite.

by ziggy Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:19 pm

As Cato says, Rolling Eyes

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by Aaron Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:29 pm

I'm curious, do you really need 3 guesses as to what you can do with that thought???

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