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Islamic Law Comes to the Phoenix Airport

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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:11 am

Islamic Law Comes to the Phoenix Airport
humanevents.com ^ | 09/03/2008 | Robert Spencer


Score another victory for the stealth jihad: Phoenix’s Sky Harbor International Airport, where the janitorial firm GCA Services recently instituted a new uniform that featured pants. But thirty Somali Muslim women who work for GSA Services protested: up to that point they had been allowed to wear skirts, and they thought that pants offended against the modesty Islam mandates for women. With help from the Council on American-Islamic Relations, this week they won permission to forgo the new uniform and wear skirts on the job.

Traditional Islam enjoins modesty: Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, declared that adult women should never appear in public unless everything except their face and hands was covered. But I have seen enough Muslim women -- both in the United States and in Muslim countries -- wearing tight jeans and hijab to know that modesty can be in the eyes of the beholder in the Islamic world as much as it can be for non-Muslims.

Does Islamic law actually forbid women from wearing pants? Not as such, unless pants are considered to be men’s clothing -- women are forbidden to wear the clothes of men. But does that apply to pants? That view is not universally held among Muslim authorities.

So what is going on here? Plain and simple, it’s Islamic supremacism: the idea that Islamic mores and practices must always and everywhere prevail whenever and wherever they clash with non-Muslim ones. When non-Muslims travel in Muslim countries, they have to adapt to Islamic mores. When Muslims immigrate to non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims have to adapt to Islamic mores.

As happens in every instance of stealth jihad and creeping Sharia in the United States, here again people will say, what’s the big deal if they wear skirts?

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Traditional Islam enjoins modesty: Why doesn't Islam enjoin not cutting people's heads off? Or, not flying airplanes into buildings? That seems a little worse than women wearing slacks.
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Post by ziggy Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:17 am

Traditional Islam enjoins modesty: Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, declared that adult women should never appear in public unless everything except their face and hands was covered. But I have seen enough Muslim women -- both in the United States and in Muslim countries -- wearing tight jeans and hijab to know that modesty can be in the eyes of the beholder in the Islamic world as much as it can be for non-Muslims.

In the eyes of the practitioner, not the beholder, of the "modesty", actually.
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Post by SheikBen Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:40 am

My only problem with this is that the same courtesy is often not afforded evangelical Christians.

There are Pentecostal churches which expect their women not to wear pants, and if their women are similarly exempted from the Phoenix Airport crew's uniforms I do not see the problem.

Make no mistake, I believe that the Muslim faith is wrong. I believe that they should be afforded courtesy nonetheless, and I belive that Christians and Jewish people should be afforded that same courtesy. I agree that there is a double standard; however, rather than protest the advantages that Muslim women regularly have, we should insist that they be given to Christians and Jews as well. I'm sure that some Christian cabbies would rather not transport alcohol. Why not let them have that right with the appropriate signage?

I desperately want Christian pharmacists to have the right not to dispense the morning after pill; to be consistent, I have to also want those of the Muslim faith to live out their beliefs also.

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Post by Stephanie Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:30 pm

I don't understand why you have to constantly attack all Muslims. Why can't you be respectful of them and their faith and treat them as you would like to be treated yourself? Lead by example.
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Post by Keli Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:32 pm

Stephanie wrote:I don't understand why you have to constantly attack all Muslims. Why can't you be respectful of them and their faith and treat them as you would like to be treated yourself? Lead by example.


Because radical Islam is evil. Take the Quiz.



1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
massacred by:
a) Olga Korbut
b) Sitting Bull
c) Arnold Schwartzeneger
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

02. In 1979, the U. S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a) Lost Norwegians
b) Elvis
c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

03. During the 1980's, a number of Americans were kidnapped in
Lebanon by:
a) John Dillinger
b) The King of Sweden
c) The Boy Scouts
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

04. In 1983, the U. S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by:
a) A pizza delivery boy
b) Pee Wee Herman
c) Geraldo Rivera
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

05. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a
70-year-old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
a) The Smurfs
b) Davey Jones
c) The Little Mermaid
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

06. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a US Navy
diver was murdered by:
a) Captain Kidd
b) Charles Lindberg
c) Mother Teresa
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

07. In 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was bombed by:
a) Scooby Doo
b) The Tooth Fairy
c) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

08. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a) Richard Simmons
b) Grandma Moses
c) Michael Jordan
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

09. In 1998, the U. S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a) Mr. Rogers
b) Mutt and Jeff
c) The World Wrestling Federation
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 50

10. On 9-11--01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and
thousands of people were killed by:
a) Bugs Bunny
b) The Supreme Court of Florida
c) Mr. Bean
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a) Bonnie and Clyde
b) Captain Kangaroo
c) Billy Graham
d) Islamic extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.
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Post by Stephanie Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:15 pm

I could make similar lists for radical Christians and radical Jews.

Not all Muslims are extremists.
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Post by Keli Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:17 pm

Stephanie wrote:I could make similar lists for radical Christians and radical Jews.

Not all Muslims are extremists.

I denounce all such groups--Christian, Jew or Muslim. Where are the Muslims who denounce the radical Muslims?
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Post by Stephanie Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:37 pm

Just because you don't know who they are doesn't mean they don't exist.

http://www.freemuslims.org/issues/

Our Positions


What We Believe in


Modern Islam


The Free Muslims Coalition believes that the Koran only provides general principles of governance which leaves the faithful with substantial flexibility to modernize popular Muslim practices and beliefs.
Democracy


The Free Muslims cautions that imposing democracy on the Middle East without first promoting secularism and destroying terrorism may lead to the creation of Islamic extremist states that will ultimately reject the democracy that brings them to power.
Terrorism


The Free Muslims believes that fundamentalist Islamic terror represents one of the most lethal threats to the stability of the civilized world. There is no room for terrorism in the modern world and the United States should take a no-tolerance stance on terrorism in order to avoid another tragedy, along the lines of 9-11.
Economic Development


The Free Muslims wants to integrate the community as a whole into the global market in order to improve people's standard of living and reduce the number of people who sympathize with extremism and terrorism because of their inability to gain a minimum level of prosperity.
Israel/Palestine


No issue evokes the passion of Muslims and Arabs as much as the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is so important to Arabs and Muslims that every terrorist group from Morocco to Indonesia that seeks legitimacy and a following, places the "liberation" of Palestine at the forefront of their agenda.
Don't Blame the "Jews"


Another disturbing trend that is heavily propagated by extremists and accepted by many naive Arabs and Muslims is the blaming of all Muslim problems on the "Jews." There are numerous examples for this but most recently news broadcasts out of Iraq quoted Iraqi victims of violence who blamed the bombings on Jews or a Jewish conspiracy.
Women's Rights


The Free Muslims Coalition strongly believes that equality for Muslim women is essential to the development of the Muslim world and to the defeat of extremism.


Here are a few more:

http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php

http://www.againstterrorism.org/index.php/about/
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Post by Keli Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:12 pm

The Free Muslims Coalition is a wolf in sheep's clothing organization. Arafat used to denounce violence--out of one side of his mouth. Free Muslims and the other groups you mention are front groups for other radical Islamo-fascists.
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Post by Stephanie Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:27 pm

Yep, just like the CYO and Knights of Columbus are all fronts for radical Christianity.
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Post by TerryRC Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:31 am

The Free Muslims Coalition is a wolf in sheep's clothing organization. Arafat used to denounce violence--out of one side of his mouth. Free Muslims and the other groups you mention are front groups for other radical Islamo-fascists.

There are other groups, also. Steph gave you an example and it wasn't good enough.

She could give you fifty examples and it wouldn't be good enough.

People like you, on both sides, will almost insure you your "holy war", Keli.

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