Questions for those who have evolved to 97% chimpness:

http://contenderministries.org/evolution/questions.php

The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions? Some well-meaning but misguided people think evolution is a reasonable theory to explain man’s questions about the universe. Evolution is not a good theory — it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.


1. Where did the space for the universe come from?


2. Where did matter come from?


3. Where did the laws of the universe come from (gravity, inertia, etc.)?


4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?


5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?


6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?


7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?


8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?


9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)


10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)


11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?


12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?


13. When, where, why, and how did
a. Single-celled plants become multi-celled? (Where are the two and three-celled intermediates?)
b. Single-celled animals evolve?
c. Fish change to amphibians?
d. Amphibians change to reptiles?
e. Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!)
f. How did the intermediate forms live?


14. When, where, why, how, and from what did:
a. Whales evolve?
b. Sea horses evolve?
c. Bats evolve?
d. Eyes evolve?
e. Ears evolve?
f. Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?


15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)?
a. The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)?
b. The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce?
c. The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs?
d. DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts?
e. The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose?
f. The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants?
g. The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones?
h. The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system?
i. The immune system or the need for it?


16. There are many thousands of examples of symbiosis that defy an evolutionary explanation. Why must we teach students that evolution is the only explanation for these relationships?


17. How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?


18. When, where, why, and how did man evolve feelings? Love, mercy, guilt, etc. would never evolve in the theory of evolution.


19. How did photosynthesis evolve?


20. How did thought evolve?


21. How did flowering plants evolve, and from what?


22. What kind of evolutionist are you? Why are you not one of the other eight or ten kinds?


23. What would you have said fifty years ago if I told you I had a living coelacanth in my aquarium?


24. Is there one clear prediction of macroevolution that has proved true?


25. What is so scientific about the idea of hydrogen gas becoming human?


26. Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

Recombining wheat flour has created hundreds of new, improved varieties of breads, cakes, pasta and pastries.

Oh yeah, and pastes and gravies.



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11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

A common Creator might explain a late Friday afternoon creation of the platypus.

Or would that be an early "head hurting" Monday morning?



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SamCogar wrote:

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

Recombining wheat flour has created hundreds of new, improved varieties of breads, cakes, pasta and pastries.

Oh yeah, and pastes and gravies.



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If you add some fruit and nuts to dough you can make a fruitcake : SamCogar.

23. What would you have said fifty years ago if I told you I had a living coelacanth in my aquarium?

I would probably have asked if you had any cockroaches in your kitchen cabinets.

These earliest cockroach-like fossils ("Blattopterans" or "roachids") are from the Carboniferous period between 354–295 million years ago. However, these fossils differ from modern cockroaches in having long ovipositors and are the ancestors of mantids as well as modern cockroaches. The first fossils of modern cockroaches with internal ovipositors appear in the early Cretaceous 145 million years ago.

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

What does "perfectly organized" mean?

Is organization what we observe, or what we assign to what we observe?

24. Is there one clear prediction of macroevolution that has proved true?

Did someone make a prediction?


If they did, I guess it has been proven just a true as the Bible's prediction that JC is due back any time now, ...... any time now, ...... any time now, ...... any time now.

What time is it anyway?



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ziggy wrote:

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

What does "perfectly organized" mean?

Is organization what we observe, or what we assign to what we observe?

"We" hell.

I don't know what the hell you see or do ........ but don't include me as being party to it.



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We spend a lot of our energies trying to "make sense" or what we see. When we finally do "make sense" of it, is the sense, or order, in what we are observing, or only in our minds?

ziggy wrote:

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

What does "perfectly organized" mean?

Is organization what we observe, or what we assign to what we observe?

What is "observe?"

[quote="SamCogar"]

What time is it anyway?

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Later than you think, SamCogar.

II Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

As 97% chimp, I offer my responses:

1. Where did the space for the universe come from?

I fling poo.


2. Where did matter come from?

New hair style? I must destroy you!

3. Where did the laws of the universe come from (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

Richard Dawkins.
4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

Have you seen my kids' rooms? I fling poo.
5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

Chance and nothing. It's kind of like not playing the lottery but winning anyway. You should know that it happens all the time.

6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

Must kill friend. New hairstyle and rental car. Hey, what happened to my thumbs?

7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

Go reproduce yourself! What kind of a question is THAT? Only a fundamentalist with knowledge of where babies come from (and "time and chance" don't cut the mustard!) would ask a question like THAT. Do you have no shame? I fling poo.
8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?
Get your head out of the gutter. I fling poo.

9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)

Here I do not see an actual argument. The materialist rejects teleology so I don't think point 9 is actually an issue here. Of course, being 97% chimp, nevermind what I have to say. I fling poo.

10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

Oh ye of little faith!

11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

Only if you think similarities between an 1989 Chevy Cavalier and a 1990 Cavalier do!

12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?

Again, I don't think there is an argument here, but don't forget my penchant for the flicking of feces!

13. When, where, why, and how did
a. Single-celled plants become multi-celled? (Where are the two and three-celled intermediates?)
b. Single-celled animals evolve?
c. Fish change to amphibians?
d. Amphibians change to reptiles?
e. Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!)
f. How did the intermediate forms live?

My head hurts. Must find mate....

14. When, where, why, how, and from what did:
a. Whales evolve?
b. Sea horses evolve?
c. Bats evolve?
d. Eyes evolve?
e. Ears evolve?
f. Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

Quit it! It really hurts!

15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)?
a. The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)?
b. The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce?
c. The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs?
d. DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts?
e. The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose?
f. The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants?
g. The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones?
h. The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system?
i. The immune system or the need for it?

Perhaps the Spanish could be blamed? Yo lanzo mierda!

16. There are many thousands of examples of symbiosis that defy an evolutionary explanation. Why must we teach students that evolution is the only explanation for these relationships?

Perhaps they "devolved" into the state of needing another.

17. How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?

I learned to fling poo by nature. Trust me, mom never taught me to do THAT.

18. When, where, why, and how did man evolve feelings? Love, mercy, guilt, etc. would never evolve in the theory of evolution.


19. How did photosynthesis evolve?


20. How did thought evolve?


21. How did flowering plants evolve, and from what?


22. What kind of evolutionist are you? Why are you not one of the other eight or ten kinds?


23. What would you have said fifty years ago if I told you I had a living coelacanth in my aquarium?


24. Is there one clear prediction of macroevolution that has proved true?


25. What is so scientific about the idea of hydrogen gas becoming human?


26. Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?

Keli the White wrote:

ziggy wrote:

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

What does "perfectly organized" mean?

Is organization what we observe, or what we assign to what we observe?

What is "observe?"

ob⋅serve   /əbˈzɜrv/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uhb-zurv] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -served, -serv⋅ing.
–verb (used with object) 1. to see, watch, perceive, or notice: He observed the passersby in the street.
2. to regard with attention, esp. so as to see or learn something: I want you to observe her reaction to the judge's question.
3. to watch, view, or note for a scientific, official, or other special purpose: to observe an eclipse.
4. to state by way of comment; remark: He observed frequently that clerks were not as courteous as they used to be.
5. to keep or maintain in one's action, conduct, etc.: You must observe quiet.
6. to obey, comply with, or conform to: to observe laws.
7. to show regard for by some appropriate procedure, ceremony, etc.: to observe Palm Sunday.
8. to perform duly or solemnize (ceremonies, rites, etc.).
9. to note or inspect closely for an omen or sign of future events.
–verb (used without object) 10. to notice.
11. to act as an observer.
12. to remark or comment (usually fol. by on or upon).

ziggy wrote:

Keli the White wrote:

ziggy wrote:

4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

What does "perfectly organized" mean?

Is organization what we observe, or what we assign to what we observe?

What is "observe?"

ob⋅serve   /əbˈzɜrv/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uhb-zurv] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -served, -serv⋅ing.
–verb (used with object) 1. to see, watch, perceive, or notice: He observed the passersby in the street.
2. to regard with attention, esp. so as to see or learn something: I want you to observe her reaction to the judge's question.
3. to watch, view, or note for a scientific, official, or other special purpose: to observe an eclipse.
4. to state by way of comment; remark: He observed frequently that clerks were not as courteous as they used to be.
5. to keep or maintain in one's action, conduct, etc.: You must observe quiet.
6. to obey, comply with, or conform to: to observe laws.
7. to show regard for by some appropriate procedure, ceremony, etc.: to observe Palm Sunday.
8. to perform duly or solemnize (ceremonies, rites, etc.).
9. to note or inspect closely for an omen or sign of future events.
–verb (used without object) 10. to notice.
11. to act as an observer.
12. to remark or comment (usually fol. by on or upon).

Who says that this dictionary provides the only definition? Can't there be other acceptable interpretations or definitions of "observe?"

I suppose you could develop your own personal, exclusive meaning of that word- or of any word. But that makes verbal communication with others nigh impossible.

You asked, "What is "observe?" in the context of what I had said. And so I told you. If you don't like that, take it up with the lexicographers.

ziggy wrote:I suppose you could develop your own personal, exclusive meaning of that word- or of any word. But that makes verbal communication with others nigh impossible.

You asked, "What is "observe?" in the context of what I had said. And so I told you. If you don't like that, take it up with the lexicographers.

Ziggy,
Sometimes things go right over your head? Ever thought about evolving 1% Giraffe?

Ziggy,
Sometimes things go right over your head?

Duh, yeah. Don't we all?

Ever thought about evolving 1% Giraffe?

I'd like to take this opportunity to explain just why it is I've grown so fond of all of you. For two years now every time I think to myself, "Stephanie, you're a serious head case. You're deranged and beyond all hope", I get to come here and see what you gents are carrying on about and I feel better.

Not only am I not the only lunatic on the loose, there are people far crazier than I am. This observe discussion is reminding that it all depends upon what your definition of the word "is" is. Meanwhile, Michael is flinging poo.

Bravo! I feel much better now.