Holiday

Today is Casimir Pulaski Day.

http://www.eiu.edu/~insight/pulaski/pulaski.htm

My family spent many an afternoon at Pulaski Park in northern RI.

I wish I was in Pulaski Park in Savannah today.

I've wanted to visit Savannah ever since I read the book Midnight in the Garden of Good & Evil.

I liked that book.

It's a really pretty town and there is much history.

Someday..........

The good brother-in-law lives outside of Atlanta. At some point we'll go down and visit and I'll see Savannah, hopefully visit the Carter Library and see the monument of Nathaniel Greene.

Stephanie wrote:Someday..........

The good brother-in-law lives outside of Atlanta. At some point we'll go down and visit and I'll see Savannah, hopefully visit the Carter Library and see the monument of Nathaniel Greene.

While you are there you might want to check out the Georgia State Memorial to General Sherman.

I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before, by my poor brother is an IRS agent. I say poor because he loathes his job entirely.

They send him to different locations for training a couple of times a year and two years ago they sent him to Atlanta. Steve is a major history buff and General Nathaniel Greene is one of his favorite historical figures. I'm not sure how much any of you know about him but he won many key battles during the Revolutionary War, very close to George Washington, and a Rhode Islander.

There are several cities and towns across the nation named for Greene and numerous monuments, statues, parks, schools and the like named for him across the east coast. He settled in Georgia after the war and so there are a lot of sites related to Greene to explore in Georgia.

Steve loved it all so much rather than fly back, he rented a car in order to visit several more such monuments on his trip home. I have known about General Greene all of my life. Way back in the stone ages when I was a child, RI school children were taught quite a bit about him along with RI's founding father, Roger Williams. Still, when I visited home last summer Stevie insisted on giving me a crash refresher course! LOL

Savannah is one of the best places on earth--just don't get lost. Much of the town is downright scary.

Water Street is so fantastic that I went there on a 100 degree day summer before last. There are many places to "grab a traveler" and there are trolley tours that show off all the really great buildings. While I don't go on such things, my parents really liked the "ghost tours" they have at night.

If you do go, drive about an hour or so away from there to Beaumont, South Carolina, and visit the Episcopalian Church which has survived 400 years of hurricanes and one particularly nasty bout of Northern Aggression:).

As for poverty, Stephanie has a really good point. Of my friends who consider themselves poor (and are considered by the government to be poor), they all own their homes/trailers and all have cable television. Once one couple asked me to drive them to WalMart, which I was happy to do, and I saw just how much "fluff" they were able to put on their food stamps.

I don't begrudge them having nice things, but the picture of "poverty" that is painted by the news just ain't there. They all have new glasses, 60 plus television stations, free healthcare, and plenty to eat.

Ghost tours?

That's it.......I have to go.

How've ya been doing, Mike? I don't feel like I've "chatted" with you in quite a while. How's that tribe of yours getting along? How old is that baby now? Is she rapidly approaching a year? I forget. My brother's baby is a litte over 8 months old and I think your little girl was born first.

I've been OK. Sick, kids sick, wife sick. On the plus side, really active with work! In this recession so far I have more than enough to do, and I am very grateful for this. Mary Catherine was born June 6th, so I guess that makes her going on 9 months. She is growing like a weed in good fertilizer.

I've not been on lately for a couple of reasons. One is that my computer shuts down for no good reason every thirty minutes or so. Another is that I find myself absolutely flabbergasted by what is going on with the nation's leadership as well as the press. I am surprised by just how juvenile and evil they appear to me. I never thought that the media would STILL be fellating Mr Obama and I never imagined that Obama would great every new disaster with even bolder pronouncements.

So I really am just shocked and a bit bewildered by everything I hear on the radio or see on the internet. I was listening to NPR (was needing help to nap:) and Mrs Clinton was speaking. I thought to myself "she's about to blame Bush for something" and, like 5 seconds later, she condemned the "messes left by the previous administration."

Jeez, even when they are in power all they can do is be anti-Republican! Will no one bother to tell them that they cannot lead a country merely by hating George Bush?

They are running this country into the ground.

Jeez, even when they are in power all they can do is be anti-Republican! Will no one bother to tell them that they cannot lead a country merely by hating George Bush?

Why not? Some people would run this country by still hating Franklin Roosevelt.

"Jeez, even when they are in power all they can do is be anti-Republican! Will no one bother to tell them that they cannot lead a country merely by hating George Bush?

They are running this country into the ground."

Well Mike you must be reading different news than I am.

Obama has been cajoling, kissing up, and bending over backward (frontward?) trying toco-operate with the republicans on a bi-partisan agenda.

But the Limbaugh Republicans not only say hailno they won't cooperate and not only that but they will do everything they can to obstruct and sabotage his efforts to dig the country out of this hole your bunch left us in.

Everything is negative from your guys' side and that's the truth.

But I got news for you, the people are fed up with your bunch so they would be better off to just be inconspicuous if they dont want to be part of the recovery effort or they will take a butt whooping even worse next time.

ziggy wrote:

Jeez, even when they are in power all they can do is be anti-Republican! Will no one bother to tell them that they cannot lead a country merely by hating George Bush?

Why not? Some people would run this country by still hating Franklin Roosevelt.

And that is similarly moronic, Zig, although I see that less often.

What should occur is the exchange of ideas. The Republicans claim to believe in free markets and the Democrats in government-based solutions. That is well and good. But I constantly hear Obama referring to the evils of the previous administration. Then I hear it from Clinton. The guy reminds me of the teens I work with.

Having cocktails with Republicans does not make bipartisanship, by the way.

Mike, I feel your pain!

Katie, with the excellent attendence record, missed four days of school last week. That poor girl was down & out. The rest of us have been sick, sick, sick but Kate was the sickest. Will winter ever end? She is missing a scholarship event at the college she will attend in the fall because she simply isn't well enough for the trip and the competition. It's a bummer.

I'm pleased to hear you've got plenty of work. It's something to be thankful for in this economy.

I find it remarkable the free pass Obama has been getting from the media too. Perhaps they just have too much invested in him to acknowledge the truth of the situation right now. I also find it simply amazing how much attention they are paying to non-issues.

I have resigned myself to being called an "obstructionist" for not blindly supporting every half-baked scheme Team O hatches, choosing instead to voice my opposition. I've been called worse.

This thread is a snapshot of what is going on nationally. You have one person making a statement and one comes out and says "you blamed us first" and the second comes out and says "it's all your guys fault".

No offense because I'm sure his heart in in the right place but Sodbuster is is the democratic Rush Limbaugh. If they have a (d) behind their name, they can do no wrong.

And regarding the statement about FDR, I presume you're referring to me Ziggy. If not, I'm going to address for whom every your referring it to.

To set the record straight, I don't hate FDR. Before I started reading about him, I thought pretty much of him the same thing that most do. Then I read the history books. And started printing the truth.

Everything you blame Johnson and Bush for, FDR did and then some yet you don't put him in the same category as them.

Why is that?

Well Aaron, I was not referring to just you. I remember that almost 50 years one of dad's childhood friends would nearly have a political orgasm by lashing out at FDR in his political discussions with dad. But yes, you too.

To answer you question, and as I have said before here, I can barely keep up with events during my adult lifetime. And so I do not go back beyond about 1963 or so year to obsess about what might have been that which did not then directly affect me.

I suppose I could chose to obsess about Hoover, or Lincoln, or FDR, or Woodrow Wilson, or some several other controversal historical figures. But I am more concerned with the here and now of my adult lifetime, and with the future.

That answers a copout Ziggy and your refusal to even look at the crimes committed by FDR but lament LBJ and GWB as traitors furthers validates you’re lack of credibility regarding the subject.

I am not claiming "credibility". I only claiming my opinion. You are the one who makes grandiose claims and them proclaims then to have been "proven". So you need that "credibility"; I don't.

As to FDR's "crimes", he was president for 12 plus years. As far as I know during all that time he was not charged with any crimes. And the U.S. Supreme rejected some, and upheld other of the legislation FDR got passed and signed into law.

I consider the "credibility" of the Supreme Court at least equal to yours any day.

I haven't "proven" anything about FDR Ziggy, history has. It's out there for anyone willing to open their eyes and look.

As for 'grandiose' statements, I don't make them. I merely state the facts. If anyone is making that type of statement it's you when you start spouting your unsubstantiated fanatical statements about LBJ and GWB.

As for the 'credibility' of the 1930's supreme court, Owen Roberts erased all doubt they had any when he admitted in 1953 there were justices' on the court who caved to FDR's court packing blackmail bill and switched votes on New Deal legislation solely to keep the court at 9 justice’s.

Like I said, it's all out there for any willing to pull their head out of the sand and look.

What I hope will come from all of this mess is a better understanding of free markets vs strong government intervention.

For all of my educated years, I have always heard from every teacher I've had save perhaps one that FDR's policies ended the Great Depression. Friends and co-cons have been quick to cite WWII.

Now we have a liberal government proferring government based solutions. If they can be shown to work, then what my teachers have preached is true--if they fail, then I should like there to be some "oops" statements.

It's just not adult to call names, which is why I am so very hacked off at Obama's incessant statements of blame to the "previous administration." If he is right about what to do, I will rejoice with him, and the people will make the Republicans practically a third party. If he is wrong, then let him just be wrong rather than looking for scapegoats. Either way let's see what policies are wise and what policies are unwise, and leave it at that.