Re: Halloween

by Keli Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:31 pm

ziggy wrote:
There are public displays of Halloween decorations in public places and offices where Christmas Trees have been banned or replaced with a Holiday Tree.

Banned by what authority? So what do you have against Holiday Trees?

Boston Globe

De-Christmasing Christmas

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | November 30, 2005

WHEN A commotion erupted over the fact that the 48-foot white spruce installed on the Boston Common -- an annual gift from the people of Nova Scotia -- is identified on Boston's official website as a ''holiday tree," the city's commissioner of parks and recreation sided firmly with the critics. ''This is a Christmas tree," Antonia Pollak declared. ''It's definitely a Christmas tree."

At least that's what she told the Boston press. According to CBC News, on the other hand, she took a rather different line with the Canadian press: ''A lot of people celebrate various religious holidays but also enjoy the lights, and we're trying to be inclusive."

Meanwhile, Pollak's boss said he intends to call it a Christmas tree, no matter what it says on the City Hall website. ''I didn't write the website," Boston Mayor Thomas Menino told the Boston Herald. ''If I had, it would have said Christmas tree." He must not write the mayor's weekly column, either. The current one is about the lighting of Christmas trees all over Boston -- yet not once does the word ''Christmas" modify the word ''tree."

And so it begins again -- the annual effort to neuter Christmas, to insist in the name of ''inclusiveness" and ''sensitivity" that a Christian holiday celebrated by something like 90 percent of Americans not be called by its proper name or referred to in religious terms. We all know the drill by now. Instead of ''Merry Christmas," store clerks wish you a ''happy holiday." Schools close for winter break. Your office throws a holiday party.

by ziggy Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:46 pm

Keli wrote:
ziggy wrote:
There are public displays of Halloween decorations in public places and offices where Christmas Trees have been banned or replaced with a Holiday Tree.

Banned by what authority? So what do you have against Holiday Trees?

Boston Globe

The Boston Globe has no authority to do anything related to this. Why try to make a scapegoat of the media simply for reporting what happened?

by Aaron Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:38 pm

ziggy wrote:
That seems a bit hypocritical considering you're criticizing Mike-at least that's how it appears to me-for steering his kids away from celebrating what is generally accepted as the Devils night.

"Generally accepted" by whom? I don't think it is "generally accepted" that there is a Devil, even less "the Devil's night".

For most Americans Halloween is a time of fall season frivolity and harmless spoofery of imaginary witches and goblins.

You don't think.

I know.

And you're wrong on Devil's night. Ask, among other large city police chief's, Detroits for instance.

Halloween - Page 2 Detroit-devils-night

by Keli Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:04 pm

ziggy wrote:
Keli wrote:
ziggy wrote:
There are public displays of Halloween decorations in public places and offices where Christmas Trees have been banned or replaced with a Holiday Tree.

Banned by what authority? So what do you have against Holiday Trees?

Boston Globe

The Boston Globe has no authority to do anything related to this. Why try to make a scapegoat of the media simply for reporting what happened?

By what authority do you question the claims of the Boston Globe? (Two can play this childish game, Ziggy.)

by Aaron Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:03 pm

Ziggy has a misguided way of thinking that if he doesn't believe something or he questions it, he must be right.

But then as Ziggy correctly pionted out, he doesn't think.

by ziggy Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:06 pm

Keli wrote:
ziggy wrote:
Keli wrote:
ziggy wrote:
There are public displays of Halloween decorations in public places and offices where Christmas Trees have been banned or replaced with a Holiday Tree.

Banned by what authority? So what do you have against Holiday Trees?

Boston Globe

The Boston Globe has no authority to do anything related to this. Why try to make a scapegoat of the media simply for reporting what happened?

By what authority do you question the claims of the Boston Globe? (Two can play this childish game, Ziggy.)

Yeah, but you started it. I just play along.

by ziggy Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:11 pm

Aaron wrote:
ziggy wrote:
That seems a bit hypocritical considering you're criticizing Mike-at least that's how it appears to me-for steering his kids away from celebrating what is generally accepted as the Devils night.

"Generally accepted" by whom? I don't think it is "generally accepted" that there is a Devil, even less "the Devil's night".

For most Americans Halloween is a time of fall season frivolity and harmless spoofery of imaginary witches and goblins.

You don't think.

I know.

And you're wrong on Devil's night. Ask, among other large city police chief's, Detroits for instance.

Detroit has been burning since the 1960s- and not just on Halloween night.

by Aaron Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:04 pm

That doesn't change the facts about Devil's night.

by ziggy Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:20 pm

Of course it doesn't. "Devil's night" is but one more supernatural myth.

by Aaron Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:28 pm

If it's a myth, why does Detroit and other cities increase patrols and security EVERY year?

by ziggy Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:33 pm

Because people are pranksters around Halloween- sometimes violently so- moreso than some other times.

by Aaron Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:37 pm

Damn, you mean my computer took me to the wrong page when I did a search for Devil's night and it really took me to Pranksters night?

This damn computer.

by SamCogar Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:53 am

Aaron wrote:
Each parent has to decide what they believe is and is not harmless including those who do not want to expose their children to what society accepts as a holiday that celebrates the dark side of religion.

AAAWWWW, ..... GIVE US A BREAK, ....... I sat here last evening playing Solataire and watched at least 200+ kids, teenagers, parents, young adults and grandparents walking up n' down the sidewalk in front of the house ........ and I can almost guarantee you, and back it up with a bet of a cold case of Bud Light beer, that nary a one of them people were thinking or pondering about the "dark side" religious aspects of Halloween.

And from the looks of that motley crowd I would have to say that 85% of them never, if ever, thinks about their own Religious beliefs at any time, be it the "light side" or the "dark side" of said.

The same ones who do not want to expose their children to what they themselves think is a Halloween holiday that celebrates the dark side of religion ....... are of the same mindset as those who didn't want to expose themselves or anyone else to what they themselves thought was a "beer drinking" Sternwheel Regata holiday that celebrated the dark side of religion.

Me thinks there are probably more people in the US that "worship sports" than here are that "worship religion". Two (2) things that are LITERALLY a waste of time and accomplishes absolutely nothing productively. ZERO, ZILCH, NADA

One could learn and accomplish more by "watching paint dry".

by Aaron Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:54 am

200 people out trick or treating in Burnsville on a warm Saturday night. Nice. I've always said there are benefits to small town living.

by SamCogar Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:08 am

HA, Burnsville was lucky this Halloween.

We usually have, a good guess of, 500+ on trick-or-treat night but this year Burnsville, Gassaway, Sutton, Flatwoods, Glenville, Sand Fork and Weston all had it the same night.

It is 20 miles or less from Burnsville to any of those other 5 town and when it is held on different nights the kids come from everywhere in between here and there.

by Aaron Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:53 am

Happy All Saint's Day.

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