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Post by ohio county Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:26 am

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/CandidateQA/ObamaQA/?page=full

The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.

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Post by SamCogar Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:23 am

It amazes me that the majority of the masses are just sitting back on their arses .... doing little more than grumbling n' complaining ...... and waiting patiently for "the next election".

If anyone other than Obama was sitting in the POTUS chair, ..... the masses and Congressional Members would be screaming loudly for impeachment.

Geeeezus, all Slick Willy did to garner "calls for impeachment" was to fib about engaging in a perverted sex act in the Oval Office.

Maybe it is a fear of a "black anarchial revolt" that disuades anyone from calling for impeachment of the current POTUS. affraid affraid affraid affraid

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Post by SheikBen Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:59 am

I'm sure there are those calling for the impeachment of Obama. I am not one of them, because I do not want to set the precedent of impeaching every President that we're angry at. The way to deal with Obama is to take the case to the American public that if this guy is who they want, then he is also what they deserve.

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Post by SheikBen Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:09 am

Sam,

He is acting beyond what he should (and what he said he should), but I don't see how this rises to a "high crime or misdemeanor."

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Post by Aaron Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:30 am

Dennis Kucinich is brandying about the impeachment word but the main reason no one is being too vocal is because those who oppose the President are within his own party and they don't want to make him mad.

The war mongers have no problem with this attack and in fact would be happy if the President sent in ground troops so perhaps history is repeating itself. World War II brought us out of the Great Depression so maybe nation building/occupation will bring us out of this recession.
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Post by Cato Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:43 am

Aaron wrote:Dennis Kucinich is brandying about the impeachment word but the main reason no one is being too vocal is because those who oppose the President are within his own party and they don't want to make him mad.

The war mongers have no problem with this attack and in fact would be happy if the President sent in ground troops so perhaps history is repeating itself. World War II brought us out of the Great Depression so maybe nation building/occupation will bring us out of this recession.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't nation building contribute to getting us in this mess?

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Post by Aaron Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:46 am

That's what I thought but then the VISIONARIES corrected me and told me that's not what we're doing. I guess since the VISIONARIES know best, there is no reason to question the constitutionality of the President actions as they don't apply to him unless the VISIONARIES want them to. It appears the VISIONARIES do not want that to be the case here.

Besides, all the VISIONARIES would have to do is go back and say that the President contacted Congress as they're allowed to lie to the American public if the VISIONARIES deem it in our best interest. It's all in the VISIONARIES job description.
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Post by ohio county Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:50 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, I drafted an outline of what I think the Constitutional limits [garbled] have on the President with the War Clause. I went to five leading scholars, Constitutional scholars, and they drafted a treatise for me that is being distributed to every Senator. And I want to make it clear, and I’ll make it clear to the President: that if he takes this nation to war in Iran, without Congressional approval, I will make it my business to impeach him. - Joseph Robinette Biden with regard to G. W. Bush

I guess his constitutional outrage is selective... I wonder if Obama was one of his five scholars?
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Post by Aaron Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:17 pm

The amount of contradictions that have came out of this White House is truly amazing with Lybia being the biggest hypocritical of them all.
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Post by SheikBen Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:53 pm

ohio county wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, I drafted an outline of what I think the Constitutional limits [garbled] have on the President with the War Clause. I went to five leading scholars, Constitutional scholars, and they drafted a treatise for me that is being distributed to every Senator. And I want to make it clear, and I’ll make it clear to the President: that if he takes this nation to war in Iran, without Congressional approval, I will make it my business to impeach him. - Joseph Robinette Biden with regard to G. W. Bush

I guess his constitutional outrage is selective... I wonder if Obama was one of his five scholars?

You mean our present VP Joe Biden? Was he aware that, as a Senator, he could not impeach the man?

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Post by ohio county Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:41 am

I suspect he's blinded by his own hubris. Nobody messes with Joe.
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