Flat Tax on Gas?

Never thought of it like that. Very interesting. I'm learning new things today and I always like that.

lindaredtail wrote:I am sorry that you suffer persecution. My grandparents and my mother and her siblings did for quite a while. My generation has done much better. Even up here in Liberal America things have not always been good for people who are racially mixed and still aren't sometimes.

Thank you, Linda. It must be the Indian part of you that makes you so nice.

Can I ask Armon do you come from American Samoa? There is a fairly large community of Samoans in the U.S. Many live in Hawaii. I"d be the last person to tell you that I am always nice. But if you are nice to me I'll always be nice to you. I have a quid pro quo kind of an attitude most of the time.

lindaredtail wrote:Can I ask Armon do you come from American Samoa? There is a fairly large community of Samoans in the U.S. Many live in Hawaii. I"d be the last person to tell you that I am always nice. But if you are nice to me I'll always be nice to you. I have a quid pro quo kind of an attitude most of the time.

No. I am no sissy Samoan. I am Maori. Quid pro quo is fine with me. Summus quod summus...I aways say.

Maori that is really neat. New Zealand? I took Latin years ago.

Quid pro quo, Armon! You're killing me over here. You have to quit!

Stephanie I was the quid pro quo. Armon was the summus quod summus . Just a bit of Latin to brighten up the day. I took it years ago.

shermangeneral wrote:Well Lindaredtail when comparing mpg please remember when loaded you are talking about 80,000 pounds.

That is as much as 20 big fullsize passenger cars.

So looking at it like that the big rig is more efficient than a car.

But your point is valid.


With the miles they run even an increase of one mpg makes a big difference bottom line.

Set your speed down to 62 and you'll get that 1 mpg.

I don't remember. It has been a while since I have been there does WV have a 65 mile per hr speed limit? That is what it is up here now in most places. It does use more gas. A lot more gas.

On most stretches of highway it 70mph here.

I would take a guess though that you can't go that fast on a lot of the roads there. Not with all the mountainous country. How long does it take to get across the state? Do people travel long distances to work?

Aaron wrote:

shermangeneral wrote:Well Lindaredtail when comparing mpg please remember when loaded you are talking about 80,000 pounds.

That is as much as 20 big fullsize passenger cars.

So looking at it like that the big rig is more efficient than a car.

But your point is valid.


With the miles they run even an increase of one mpg makes a big difference bottom line.

Set your speed down to 62 and you'll get that 1 mpg.

Right on- at least on "level ground". .

But a feller and I were having this discussion a week or so ago- is it better to hit the bottom of the hill at 62 or so, or better to hit it at 70- knowing that the speed will drop to 62 or lower as the vehicle ascends the hill anyway? It seems to me that it would be better, fuel wise, to hit the hill full throttle at the higher speed, and get over it sooner, than one would to take it at full throttle at the lower speed- and thus take longer to climb the hill.

I have never tried to go across the entire state. I've been here two years and there are many counties I still haven't seen. My husband travels about an hour each way to work. We live in the boonies.

I can tell you that the speed limits here seem very high to me. Many two lane roads have speed limits of 55 MPH. The road I live on is treacherous and the speed limit is 35. It's nuts. They fly down these windy, hilly, narrow roads that are repeatedly crossed by deer. It's unbelievable to me more people aren't killed and severely injured in traffic accidents here.

Another thing, the women drivers here are sooo aggressive! LOL Some of them are absolute manics. West Virginia is wild & wonderful.

lindaredtail wrote:I would take a guess though that you can't go that fast on a lot of the roads there. Not with all the mountainous country. How long does it take to get across the state? Do people travel long distances to work?

Do you mean as the redtail hawk flies?

I love wild places. That is probably why I liked going into WV so much. I've been in a lot of them. Women in the Northeast have also become way more aggressive drivers and there are a lot of road rage type stuff that goes on here. We just saw one the other day. The object is not to get in one. You never know if someone is "packing" which here they shouldn't be but sometimes are.

As the redtailed hawk flies would be great to know Armon. But they have an advantage. It's a nice straight line for them. No curvy mountain roads and no traffic jams. They live the good life.

Stephanie wrote:Another thing, the women drivers here are sooo aggressive! LOL Some of them are absolute manics.

Yeah, some of your neighbors were telling me about Hot Rod Stephanie just a few days ago!
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I am reminded that, about 40 years ago, some lady in Charleston's South Hills got up a neighborhood petition demanding that the cops do something about the speeders on Loudon Heights Roads.

So the Mayor told the cops to get up there and crack down on those outlaw drivers. Before the day was over both the petition carrier lady and her hubby were cited by the cops for speeding on Loudon Heights Road!

Methinks the lady did protesteth too much. Physician, heal thyself first!

LOL

Did they tell you about my altercation with the boxed wicker chair on 64 last week? Holy crap that was hairy.

You had an altercation with a boxed wicker chair Stephanie? I would love to hear this.

Stephanie wrote:LOL

Did they tell you about my altercation with the boxed wicker chair on 64 last week? Holy crap that was hairy.

A hairy boxed wicker chair? Well, if you say so.

Stephanie I would really like to hear this story. It sounds like a good one.

I am watching a Rhode Island television station (it is very close to here) and a comment was just made by a sportscaster that Arlen Specter should be worrying about $4.oo per gallon gas and not the Patriots. People here are beginning to get just a tad testy about Arlen Specter. Say his name and the frowning and swearing starts.

lindaredtail wrote:Stephanie I would really like to hear this story. It sounds like a good one.

Geez.......there really isn't that much to tell. I was doing about 70 traveling down the center lane of I64. Just after the Dunbar exit there is a curve in the road and you're sort of cresting a hill, so you don't see too far ahead of you. I get to the top of that hill and I can see this large cardboard box in my lane! I couldn't switch lanes without hitting another car, so I just hit the breaks and then the box!

I was freaked out because I didn't know what was in that box. It was a good size......could have been a television or microwave or who knows. So now I've hit this box and it's trapped under the front end of my car. Here's where it gets good.

All these people are whizzing past me.....many of them stuck behind me momentarily driving around me and for a couple of minutes I'm sitting there trying to calm myself and my little boy. Who stopped to help me? Some nice young man I believe came here from some Middle Eastern nation. lol He stopped along the road, crossed the traffic and helped me get that now crushed box and the heavily damaged wicker chair out from under my car so I could get rolling again.

I busted a headlight, but the car, and me and most important, my son were fine.
I faced an interrogation from my husband on "why couldn't you stop it's a straight away there you should have seen it" until Monday when he had to drive home from work and he realized I was right about that location........there is a bend with a hill and you can't see much ahead of you until you crest that hill.

Well, at the risk of tag teaming with hubby against you, I will assert that a driver should not drive at a speed beyond which he / she can slow, stop or take other reasonable evasive action within the assured clear distance ahead.

And while it might not be the best tactic to stop in the center lane of I-64, blaming the situation on a curvy / hilly road is not a good defense.

From what you say here, I would suggest that you simply were not watching adequately to the road ahead as you should have been to be drivinge 70 MPH. Do you realize that 70 MPG is more than 100 feet per second? That at 70 MPH you are traveling the length of a football field in less than 3 seconds?

And in a curve around which you could not see? What were you saying again about WV women being agressive drivers?