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Post by ziggy Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:39 pm

SheikBen wrote:On the topic of halal meat, I think if it is easy enough to get it, it ought to be made available. Why not?

It's OK with me.

On the topic of Massachusettes' state religion, what is the difference between having one and enforcing it?

Constitutionality.

No one was forced to pray in the Baltimore School that Miss Murray's son was enrolled in.

If you had gone to public schools in the 1950s in the "Bible belt", you would know otherwise.
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Post by SheikBen Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:41 pm

Baltimore is not in the Bible belt.

And yes, mandatory prayers are a different thing than optional ones. Why, then, have the secularists insisted on banning them both?

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Post by ziggy Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:47 pm

Because, in the context of the classroom authority scheme, "voluntary" prayer has a subtle way of very soon become effectively mandatory.

What elementary school student, when the teacher says, "Now it's time to pray", has the fortitude to tell that teacher to shove it.

Again, if you had gone to public schools in the 1950s in the Bible belt, you would understand.
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Post by Aaron Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:22 pm

But we don't live in the bible belt of the 1950's.

We live in America in the 21st century where our teachers are required to hand out work in two languages, we can't ask parents for identification, we're no longer shocked when we hear of a school shooting or drugs in our elementary schools and the bulk of schools require some sort of protection from the very students we're supposed to be educating and our illiteracy rate is 25 times what it was in the 1910's despite spending that is going through the roof.

Heaven forbid, someone bow their head and say a prayer.
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Post by ziggy Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:11 pm

But we don't live in the bible belt of the 1950's.

You might not, but some of us do.

Heaven forbid, someone bow their head and say a prayer.

That's fine; just don't make the rest of us do it as a part of mandatory government schooling.
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Post by Aaron Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:45 pm

You're still living in the 50's.

Well, that certainly explains a lot.
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Post by ziggy Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:09 pm

The Bible Belt is located in the American South, and it includes all or parts of: Alabama Arkansas Florida Georgia Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Mississippi Missouri North Carolina Oklahoma South Carolina Tennessee Texas Virginia West Virginia

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_is_the_bible_belt_located_in_the_US
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Post by ziggy Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:10 pm

SheikBen wrote:Baltimore is not in the Bible belt.

OK. But the institutionalization of religion in public schools was not limited to one single region.
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