A Tale of Two Murders

To the Editor:

Dr. George Tiller, abortionist, was gunned down as he stood in the lobby of his Wichita church yesterday morning. Condemnation for the act was immediate and widespread, with groups on both sides of the abortion issue loudly denouncing the murder.

I extend my sincere sympathy to Dr. Tiller's family. I condemn the murder of Dr. Tiller! Furthermore, I also condemn the murder of 4,000 unborn babies killed in the USA today by abortion. If we are pro-life, how could we condone any murder?

Of particular interest, however, is the response that came within hours from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder: "Federal law enforcement is coordinating with local law enforcement officials in Kansas on the investigation of this crime, and I have directed the United States Marshals Service to offer protection to other appropriate people and facilities around the nation. The Department of Justice will work to bring the perpetrator of this crime to justice. As a precautionary measure, we will also take appropriate steps to help prevent any related acts of violence from occurring."

Two things stand out: First, according to the National Abortion Federation, a total of eight abortion providers (counting Dr. Tiller) have been killed in the United States and Canada since 1993, with Dr. Tiller being the first since 1998. (Eight is eight too many!) Yet, suddenly, the US Department of Justice has announced special protection for abortion providers and facilities around the nation. Far more police officers – and for that matter even high school and college students – have been gunned down in senseless acts of violence in that same time period; and yet, the US Marshals Service has not been directed to provide special protection to these individuals nationwide. Second, AG Holder announced “appropriate steps to help prevent any related acts of violence from occurring.” What would these “appropriate steps” be? Thinking back to this year’s Department of Homeland Security’s classification of pro-life Americans as domestic terrorists.

Holder’s announcement is troubling to say the least. But this Letter to the Editor is titled “A Tale of Two Murders” for a reason: Today, another murder took place. This one not in Kansas but in Arkansas. And not inside a church but in front of a U.S. Army recruiting station where a gunman drove by and shot two recruiters who were standing outside, killing one and injuring the other. Yet, where is the administration’s call for extra protection for US solders and military recruiting stations across the country? And where is the announcement that “appropriate steps” will be taken to prevent such acts from happening again?

Apparently, our government thinks soldiers are less worthy of protection than abortionists.

Pastor Terry Hagedorn
Calvary Baptist Church
Reedsville, WV 26547
Ph. 304-864-3870
http://mountainmanna.com

"Pointing Mountaineers to Mount Calvary."

TH, well stated.

Good Letter and so true.

Cato

"Apparently, our government thinks soldiers are less worthy of protection than abortionists" .

How can anyone say this, even think it?

Hacker wrote:"Apparently, our government thinks soldiers are less worthy of protection than abortionists" .

How can anyone say this, even think it?

Okay, I am going to type this slowly: Why didn't the O administration assign a US Marshall to all recruiting centers?

If it makes you feel good to type slowly.... go fer' it.

I dont think our recruiters are being targed by Bill O'Riley and Operation Rescue's Web site for years.
This hatefulness needs to stop.

Bill O'Riley was targeting late-term abortions and seeking to have Tiller prosecuted.

The website that had listed the home addresses of abortion providers was not only taken down but there was a mutlimillion dollar judgement against them.

Believe it or not, Hacker, it is very possible for someone to find abortion morally reprehensible and not advocate violence against the providers. Whoever did this has set the anti-abortion movement back 10 years.

As much as I despised the "work" of that infamous man, I wished him no harm at all, other than a change in profession that would perhaps be less lucrative.

SheikBen wrote:Bill O'Riley was targeting late-term abortions and seeking to have Tiller prosecuted.

The website that had listed the home addresses of abortion providers was not only taken down but there was a mutlimillion dollar judgement against them.

Believe it or not, Hacker, it is very possible for someone to find abortion morally reprehensible and not advocate violence against the providers. Whoever did this has set the anti-abortion movement back 10 years.

As much as I despised the "work" of that infamous man, I wished him no harm at all, other than a change in profession that would perhaps be less lucrative.

I'm not as kind hearted as many. Tiller was nothing more than a serial child murderer, the most cowardly and dispicable of all criminal low lifes. I would have loved to have seen him arrested, tried as the murderer he was, and either sentenced to life in prison or executed for his crimes.

While the jerk that shot Tiller is equally a murderer, one's actions bear consequences. Tiller suffered the consequences of his actions and choices. I feel absolutely no sympathy for the man, if you can call him a man.

Keli wrote:

Hacker wrote:"Apparently, our government thinks soldiers are less worthy of protection than abortionists" .

How can anyone say this, even think it?

Okay, I am going to type this slowly: Why didn't the O administration assign a US Marshall to all recruiting centers?

Because PrezBro wasn't put in office by people who actually know the meaning of honor, courage, and sacrifice. He was elected to office by the easily duped and parsitic.

"I would have loved to have seen him arrested, tried as the murderer he was, and either sentenced to life in prison or executed for his crimes."--Cato

He was, to be sure, a murderer, and that the cretin even went to church shows just how little he was getting out of it. Killing the most innocent during birth strikes me as one of the more obvious sins according to the Bible.

Terry,

Bravo! Your letter is truly eloquent and it speaks for millions of Americans.

Hacker,

George Tiller was a murderer. Bill O'Reilly wanted to see him prosecuted for his crimes. I did too. I share Mr. O'Reilly's frustration that a person can become wealthy and achieve celebrity, and in Tiller's case, martyrdom for murdering the most defenseless people of all.

I am disgusted at the murder of George Tiller. However, I don't mourn his death. There is one less baby murdering bastard in the world, you won't see me shed a tear over that.

What does grieve me is the damage George Tiller's killer has done to the movement to end abortion. I am pro-life. I oppose abortion, the death penalty and murder. Violence only creates more violence. His killer should pay the consequences for his actions, not the overwhelming majority of anti-abortion citizens and activists, and certainly not innocent unborn children.

It dosent matter what we think, or what anti abortion websites or O'Riley or the activists do., if a woman is going to have an abortion, she is going to have it. Either by self-inflicted abortion or by some Whacko person who thinks he's a doctor.
It's going to be her choice, she has to live with it.
I think we should try at least to save one life with Doctors that do abortions that are lawful and safe and necessary.

What about what the baby's father has to live with? What about what the baby's grandparents have to live with?

George Tiller wasn't your garden variety abortionist killing babies at 8 weeks gestation, or even 18 weeks gestation. He was man who took an oath to preserve life who routinely murdered babies within their mothers' wombs, or by delivering the head and piercing and scrambling their brains. If a woman can tolerate labor and delivery of the head, she can sure as hell deliver the rest of the baby.

Throughout human history there have always been rape, child molestation, and slavery. Perhaps you think we should save a few lives by permitting these atrocities too. I do not.

Oh, I didnt know about Tiller piercing babys heads,ect. did you get access to his medical records pertaining to his abortions?

Why don't you do a bit of research on 3rd trimester abortions. That is one method.

Another is to use poison to kill the baby and then inducing labor and delivery of the stillborn infant.

As a woman who delivered a fullterm stillborn baby who also delivered 5 healthy fullterm live babies, I can assure you it is much more physically (not to mention psychologocially) difficult to deliver a dead infant than a live one. "The life" or "the health" of the mother is a crock of shit. That seemed to be Tiller's preferred method.

I knew a young couple from Connecticut tickled pink about the arrival of their first child. When they received the devastating, at 27 weeks, their son had hydrocephalus they travelled to Yale-New Have medical center where Nicholas was ultimately delivered by c-section at 34 weeks. Nicholas wasn't murdered, and his parents are still thrilled to have him in their lives.

Stephanie wrote: I oppose ..... the death penalty

They shoot rabid dogs, ........ don't they?



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SamCogar wrote:

Stephanie wrote: I oppose ..... the death penalty

They shoot rabid dogs, ........ don't they?



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I don't oppose the death penalty. Capital punishment is fitting in some cases. However, what crime is an unborn baby guilty of?

Hacker wrote:It dosent matter what we think, or what anti abortion websites or O'Riley or the activists do., if a woman is going to have an abortion, she is going to have it. Either by self-inflicted abortion or by some Whacko person who thinks he's a doctor.
It's going to be her choice, she has to live with it.
I think we should try at least to save one life with Doctors that do abortions that are lawful and safe and necessary.

Necessary for what? Based on Stats. from the Alan Guttmacher Institute 93% of abortions are perfromed for no other reason than as a form of birth control. You people people want to call it choice. What about all the choices made up to the point of conception. You know like using birth control or serilization or abstinance. In this day and age, there is no excuse for becoming pregnant if one does want to.

Keli wrote:

SamCogar wrote:

Stephanie wrote: I oppose ..... the death penalty

They shoot rabid dogs, ........ don't they?



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I don't oppose the death penalty. Capital punishment is fitting in some cases. However, what crime is an unborn baby guilty of?

Like Stephanie I oppose the use of the death penalty, but only because of the length of time it takes administer the punishment after one has been sentenced. It makes me sick to see the victim of the crime of murder drug through the mud by bloodsucking attorneys and the vomit we call the media while and the guilty party is made a hero and sits on death row at the tax payer's expense.

I would no longer oppose the death penalty if it was carried out within six months of sentence and it was done publicly.

Stephanie wrote:As a woman who delivered a fullterm stillborn baby who also delivered 5 healthy fullterm live babies,

...... a young couple from Connecticut tickled pink about the arrival of their first child. When they received the devastating (news), ...... their son had hydrocephalus

Unless one walks a few miles in another's shoes, ....... they will never know how rough the road really is.

There are several problems associated with hydrocephalus:

Visual Skills - Impaired depth perception is commonly seen in individuals with hydrocephalus, and 25-33% of children with hydrocephalus will have visual impairments that affect their upward gaze and ocular movement.

Motor Skills - As many as 75% of children with hydrocephalus will have a motor disability.

Learning Disabilities - This is among the most common type of problem associated with hydrocephalus. Individuals are able to learn, however, they may require some modifications. Approximately 2/3 of children with hydrocephalus have normal or border-line intelligence. Difficulty with memory retention is commonly seen in those with learning disabilities.

Other Impairments - Some individuals may be sensitive to pressure, sound, and bright lights. Some may have seizures, constipation, or a hormonal imbalance.

There are also problems in raising and caring for a puppy dog, ....... but the Government won't pay you for those troubles ..... nor will it pay for the total support, special training and special care of that pooch when it gets older.

But the government will spend 10+ times as much to "push" a learning disabled child through pseudo-educational schooling ......... as they will to make a half-hearted attempt at educating a normal child.

Thus, it is a "Lose-Lose" proposition for all the children involved.

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Keli wrote: I don't oppose the death penalty. Capital punishment is fitting in some cases. However, what crime is an unborn baby guilty of?

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Cato wrote: In this day and age, there is no excuse for becoming pregnant if one does(n't) want to.

AW, get serious Willy, you know as well as I do that when that "moment" comes ........ both parties are thinking that they can support the whole durn world.



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SamCogar wrote:

Cato wrote: In this day and age, there is no excuse for becoming pregnant if one does(n't) want to.

AW, get serious Willy, you know as well as I do that when that "moment" comes ........ both parties are thinking that they can support the whole durn world.

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I am very serious. It is time people grew up and learned to think on thier own. That's one of the saddest commentaries about this day and age. People are so smitten by the governmental nanny state that they can't accept the fact the actions have consequences and there is sice a thing as responsibility.

Cato wrote: .... the fact the actions have consequences and there is sice a thing as responsibility.

And ever since the time your God created man and woman ........ one's responsibility has always came first to one's self. .... one's own survival.

SamCogar wrote:

Cato wrote: .... the fact the actions have consequences and there is sice a thing as responsibility.

And ever since the time your God created man and woman ........ one's responsibility has always came first to one's self. .... one's own survival.

If you say so!!!

If what you are saying is true then you have no room to complain about teacher's unions, or entitlement spending, because all of these people have banded together in the name of responsibility to one's self.

Additionally, you are saying that you would save yourself before raising a finger to save you wife or children. Afterall you are saying the you have a responsibility to yourself to save yourself.